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TabGroups Manager should use native Tab Groups, not its own repository #10

Open GoogleCodeExporter opened 9 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
It seems that best integration with the latest versions of Firefox would be 
achieved if the TGM add-on used native Tab Groups interchangeably with other 
add-ons and the built-in Panorama engine. Instead, TGM stores its own catalogue 
of tab groups and tabs.

A new release of TGM should utilize native Tab Groups such that the groups 
remain even if TGM is removed from Firefox. In this way, Panorama and other 
functionality that use native Tab Groups can interchangeably access them 
alongside TGM.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by j...@brandloyal.com on 12 Jun 2013 at 9:26

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Agree. 

Essentially TGM-2 should be a UI to replace and extend existing ways tab groups 
are displayed, and not a lot more. Extra functions such as suspend or hibernate 
tabs groups can apply to other extensions, or even Firefox without TGM, so they 
can be "unpackaged" for simplicity.

In other words I see TGM being replaced either by *smaller and simpler 
extensions*, or a single *modular* extension. The functions I see as separable 
are: 

 - Providing extra interface options for tab groups - improves how tab groups are displayed, ie via a tab groups bar, nested tab groups, etc. Also includes styling for tab groups (but not tabs themselves)

 - Suspend and hibernate tab groups - allows tab groups to be suspended or hibernated (whether or not TGM-2 is installed)

 - Backup and restore tab groups - allows tab groups to be saved and restored (as opposed to saving and restoring an entire session)

 - Most other functions in TGM are already included in other extensions. For example, styling of loaded/unloaded/suspended tabs is mostly covered in TMP and many other tab extensions, multiple tab handling is handled by Multiple Tab Handler, session save/restore is now inbuilt to Firefox and other extensions.

In other words I'd replace a monolithic complex TGM, by a modular extension or 
separate extensions, and I'd use existing functionality from Firefox and other 
well known extensions where possible to minimise our work and keep it 
lightweight and simple.

Original comment by Stilezy on 13 Jun 2013 at 12:14

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Completely agreed.

Original comment by j...@brandloyal.com on 13 Jun 2013 at 12:28

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by Stilezy on 13 Jun 2013 at 2:22

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by Stilezy on 13 Jun 2013 at 2:29

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by tgmj...@gmx.com on 9 Sep 2013 at 4:06

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by tgmj...@gmx.com on 9 Sep 2013 at 4:10

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago

Original comment by tgmj...@gmx.com on 9 Sep 2013 at 10:55

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I agree on all comments, but want to notice that one of the reasons I use TGM 
is that FF can't handle lots of tab groups itself.
Before using TGM I tried FF's groups with lots of groups and it was very slow 
and almost unusable. I don't know the reason, we may have the same problem if 
you use FF groups with TGM

Original comment by ssalg...@gmail.com on 16 Sep 2013 at 8:22

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Firefox at present is dreadful at handling its own tabs, yes. That's 
essentially the reason to use TGM.

Original comment by luck...@gmail.com on 16 Sep 2013 at 8:41

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
I'd like to point out that Panorama is considered dying, and despite many 
protests they are going to remove it completely from FF (search Google). AFAIK, 
there is currently no public API in FF that is useful as a base for TGM. And if 
they really remove Panorama, there will stay no tab-grouping functionality in 
FF at all.

See e.g.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836758
and links therein. (But more info surely on Google.)

Original comment by x...@zoznam.sk on 19 Sep 2013 at 10:42

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago 
Hello,

We've been persistently researching future plans for Tab Groups ("Panorama" and 
formerly "TabCandy").  As a reminder, issue 12 is a blocker.  However, let's 
continue to aggregate relevant information.

-  Confirmed via Mozilla IRC the absence of public API

-  https://github.com/ttaubert/firefox-tabgroups

-  http://www.palemoon.org/tabgroups.shtml

-  Mozilla bug 836758 plans to install compatible add-on by default for 
Panorama users

-- John

Original comment by tgmj...@gmx.com on 24 Sep 2013 at 8:35