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Why aren't you tracking distribution of cases by age? #349

Closed ArlisT closed 4 years ago

ArlisT commented 4 years ago

The most recent numbers I can find are two months old, and I have been searching for two hours now. There is no current data on this anywhere that I can find, no matter how I phrase the search. At one point it was easy to find charts showing distribution of cases by age, but now all such data seems to have been wiped. Even the CDC and NIH sites aren't reporting this info.

realfuture commented 4 years ago

Hey Arlis,

We have not done so solely because each category of information we capture adds to the complexity of the data ingestion challenge. It wasn't so much a determination that this was not important so much as a choice among multiple important categories of data, given limited resources.

Thank you,

Alexis

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 12:26 PM ArlisT notifications@github.com wrote:

The most recent numbers I can find are two months old, and I have been searching for two hours now. There is no current data on this anywhere that I can find, no matter how I phrase the search. At one point it was easy to find charts showing distribution of cases by age, but now all such data seems to have been wiped. Even the CDC and NIH sites aren't reporting this info.

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ArlisT commented 4 years ago

It was decided that a person's vulnerability to the virus based on his age group is not important information? As of a month ago only 3 kids under 18 had died of COVID, and all three had underlying conditions. That would be reassuring for the vast majority of parents, and I think that's pretty important, but this has been a pretty fast moving thing and the total number of COVID deaths since just a month ago has ballooned. If those percentages still hold I know some people who ought to have that information, but the numbers from a month ago can't be relied on at this point and the current numbers are not to be found.

I think that decision ought to be reconsidered.

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:22 PM realfuture notifications@github.com wrote:

Hey Arlis,

We have not done so solely because each category of information we capture adds to the complexity of the data ingestion challenge. It wasn't so much a determination that this was not important so much as a choice among multiple important categories of data, given limited resources.

Thank you,

Alexis

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 12:26 PM ArlisT notifications@github.com wrote:

The most recent numbers I can find are two months old, and I have been searching for two hours now. There is no current data on this anywhere that I can find, no matter how I phrase the search. At one point it was easy to find charts showing distribution of cases by age, but now all such data seems to have been wiped. Even the CDC and NIH sites aren't reporting this info.

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realfuture commented 4 years ago

No, that’s the opposite of what I said. It is important, but so is the other information we record. We only can record so much; it’s an almost all-volunteer team and more data points increases the complexity. States also bucket age differently, so it would be very difficult to produce good summary statistics.

Alexis

On May 3, 2020, at 9:53 PM, ArlisT notifications@github.com wrote:

 It was decided that a person's vulnerability to the virus based on his age group is not important information? As of a month ago only 3 kids under 18 had died of COVID, and all three had underlying conditions. That would be reassuring for the vast majority of parents, and I think that's pretty important, but this has been a pretty fast moving thing and the total number of COVID deaths since just a month ago has ballooned. If those percentages still hold I know some people who ought to have that information, but the numbers from a month ago can't be relied on at this point and the current numbers are not to be found.

I think that decision ought to be reconsidered.

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 4:22 PM realfuture notifications@github.com wrote:

Hey Arlis,

We have not done so solely because each category of information we capture adds to the complexity of the data ingestion challenge. It wasn't so much a determination that this was not important so much as a choice among multiple important categories of data, given limited resources.

Thank you,

Alexis

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 12:26 PM ArlisT notifications@github.com wrote:

The most recent numbers I can find are two months old, and I have been searching for two hours now. There is no current data on this anywhere that I can find, no matter how I phrase the search. At one point it was easy to find charts showing distribution of cases by age, but now all such data seems to have been wiped. Even the CDC and NIH sites aren't reporting this info.

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arw36 commented 4 years ago

Hi,

I was also interested if you are going to include information on sex and age distributions. Many state dashboards provide this information, and your group seems poised to help streamline data capture from these many different sites. I am part of the University of Georgia's COVID-19 Working Group (2019-coronavirus-tracker.com, github = https://github.com/CEIDatUGA/COVID-19-DATA), and we use your data and would like to collaborate in getting these data accessible and analyzeable in a standardized way. Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks for all the efforts your team is putting into the effort! Anna

realfuture commented 4 years ago

Hi Anna,

Why don't you send me an email to alexis@covidtracking.com — and I can put you in touch with the right people on our team. Right now, I don't think we're ready to add the extra labor to gather age, but we could potentially collaborate with you, using the system we developed, if you wanted to staff it. Age has some real complexities in trying to standardize across states (largely overlapping bucketing problems), but perhaps you can think of a solution that we have not.

Thanks so much!

Alexis

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:52 PM Anna Willoughby notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi,

I was also interested if you are going to include information on sex and age distributions. Many state dashboards provide this information, and your group seems poised to help streamline data capture from these many different sites. I am part of the University of Georgia's COVID-19 Working Group (2019-coronavirus-tracker.com, github = https://github.com/CEIDatUGA/COVID-19-DATA), and we use your data and would like to collaborate in getting these data accessible and analyzeable in a standardized way. Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks for all the efforts your team is putting into the effort! Anna

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