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In Aeneid01.txt, changed coörta to coorta #10

Closed jillianchang closed 3 years ago

jillianchang commented 3 years ago

Never mind, I think that was actually correct. What does the umlaut mean in terms of the pronunciation?

kylebgorman commented 3 years ago

Believe it or not I just checked Pharr and it really is coörta and thus [ko.or.ta]. The umlaut here indicates diaeresis: that is, this the hiatus of two vowels. You can think of the umlaut as indicating the second vowel is pronounced separately from the first. We see this in English in the New Yorker's style guide: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-curse-of-the-diaeresis

kylebgorman commented 3 years ago

I think normalize.grm needs to handle diaeresis: if it just rewrote it as coorta I think we'd parse it correctly.

jillianchang commented 3 years ago

I think normalize.grm needs to handle diaeresis: if it just rewrote it as coorta I think we'd parse it correctly.

Yeah, that sounds right. I believe I would have to insert the rule after the diphthong rule, since a word like "Simoëntis" shouldn't have diphthongization. What should I name this rule as?

jillianchang commented 3 years ago

This also brought up another question: where would we be handling syllable boundaries for the IPA notation?

kylebgorman commented 3 years ago

That rule could be called “diaeresis” I guess. You’re right though: it goes in pronunciation, not normalization, though.

Ideally we don’t have to explicitly notate syllable boundaries at all: they’re optional in an IPA transcription. The metrical grammar will recover them as a side-effect, though.

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This also brought up another question: where would we be handling syllable boundaries for the IPA notation?

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kylebgorman commented 3 years ago

Closing this in favor of #11.