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Naturalized species found on Mont St. Hilaire not found during 'Name search' #2525

Closed tle003 closed 8 years ago

tle003 commented 8 years ago

Hi,

While doing my research on Mont St. Hilaire during the summers of 2012-2015, I found two naturalized species that do not come-up on the VASCAN 'Name search':

  1. Primula beesiana Forrest - http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxon=Primula+beesiana&searchMenu=taxonomy&query=Primula+beesiana; MTMG accession number - 137407; identified with European Garden Flora
  2. Weigela floribunda C.A. Mey.- http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Taxbrowser_Taxonpage?taxid=448600; MTMG accession number - 137409

Don't hesitate to contact me if you want to know more details about these specimens, Tammy Elliott

brouille commented 8 years ago

Tammy Two years ago (or more), I wrote Marcia Waterway asking her about the Primula and a yellow "Scroph" (frequent along the road between the house on the lake and the small meeting/teaching place). Never got an answer (it was during her sabbatical - I asked again, but...). Therefore, thanks for providing me the information above about the Primula and the Weigela (which I did not know about). Still need info on the scroph (probably a Plantaginaceae now). Cannot recall the name.

I am pissed off that Marcia published data in BOLD (probably contributing to a barcoding project) but did NOT publish data in Canadensys, for which she received grant money. This is an unfulfilled contract. (Sorry about this - it bothers me). Anyway, I will be able to cite MTMG as a source for both taxa.

Thanks and best Luc

brouille commented 8 years ago

@MFavreau Marilyn and Marc: please provide vernaculars in English and French for this species, present in Québec.

https://www.rhs.org.uk/Plants/13711/i-Primula-beesiana-i-(Pf)/Details : Bee's primrose

brouille commented 8 years ago

@MFavreau the previous was for Primula beesiana Forrest ibid for Weigela floribunda PLANTS: Crimson weigela

Merci Luc

tle003 commented 8 years ago

Hi Luc,

I wonder if the yellow Plataginaceae you are thinking of is Digitaria lanata Ehrh. http://www.boldsystems.org/index.php/Public_RecordView?processid=VEMSH176-13; MTMG accession # 137092.

The other Lamiales in the Orobanchaceae, Phyrmaceae, Plataginaceae and Scrophulariaceae I found on MSH are listed below:

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The Mont St. Hilaire project is something that I worked on solely with Jonathan Davies at McGill as a side project of my PhD (Marcia has nothing to do with this project). It is true that the specimens are published on BOLD, but to my knowledge MTMG is also preparing to publish this information on VASCAN. I can look into having the information published quicker if you think that is best.

Thanks, Tammy

brouille commented 8 years ago

YEs, must be it. I noted the species as being documented at MTMG. But that might have been a guess.

I realized after having written to you that indeed you were the one sending to BOLD, not Marcia. I apologize for this. She still does not respond to our entrities to send material to Canadensys, however.

Luc

MFavreau commented 8 years ago

French names added for both species. Marilyn: the name «Bee's primrose» provided by Luc is incorrect. According to Bailey, it was named after « Bees, nurseryman, Liverpool». Another source says that it was named after «Bees, a nursery and seed supplier in Cheshire, UK». Either way, it is Bees, not Bee. Marc

manions commented 8 years ago

Thanks Luc et Marc (I thought that would be the case!). English vernaculars added. Luc - Weigela floribunda is also listed as a synonym (#29476) for Weigela floribunda

brouille commented 8 years ago

the syn is an invalid name, added for clarification of authorities