Closed smr547 closed 10 months ago
This problem has not been observed in several months. We will leave the issue open for regular checking.
Close issue. Regular checking is routine maintenance. Whilst onboard for NZ3, I only heard the water pump come on once per night, most nights (no-one was using water), so I think this is acceptable. During the day, when water is being used and pump pressurises system, there are no leaks therefore no need for pump to turn on.
Piping repaired/replaced. Refer Issue #680 for more details. Issue CLOSED.
Hi @pcbaston
Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain. Just yesterday water water was found spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there has been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The pressurised water system is now out of actions.
In previous posts @delcosta and yourself have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the system, keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne has had to fix an leak in the same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short, blind, blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe that leaked for Allister.
Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in the week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538 knows an excellent plumber who might be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
noting that issues #680 #522 #426 #583 #748 are records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant and productive comments.
Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples time on it.
@CORCpete will be interested not only because he has an upcoming booking.
Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem child. Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that only sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to NZ. Might be worth a look.
Here's the link to part: https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html $12. I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed edges that lead to leaks.....
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, @.***> wrote:
Hi @pcbaston https://github.com/pcbaston
Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain https://github.com/pjwain. Just yesterday water water was found spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there has been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The pressurised water system is now out of actions.
In previous posts @delcosta https://github.com/delcosta and yourself have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the system, keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne has had to fix an leak in the same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short, blind, blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe that leaked for Allister.
Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in the week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538 https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538 knows an excellent plumber who might be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
noting that issues #680 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/680 #522 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/522 #426 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/426 #583 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/583 #748 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/748 are records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant and productive comments.
Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples time on it.
@CORCpete https://github.com/CORCpete will be interested not only because he has an upcoming booking.
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I had a closer look this afternoon and the leak appears to be in the short pipe itself, about half way along its length, not at the connector. Peter W.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 5:16 pm Paul Baston, @.***> wrote:
Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem child. Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that only sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to NZ. Might be worth a look.
Here's the link to part: https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html $12. I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed edges that lead to leaks.....
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, @.***> wrote:
Hi @pcbaston https://github.com/pcbaston
Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain https://github.com/pjwain. Just yesterday water water was found spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there has been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The pressurised water system is now out of actions.
In previous posts @delcosta https://github.com/delcosta and yourself have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the system, keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne has had to fix an leak in the same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short, blind, blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe that leaked for Allister.
Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in the week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538 https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538 knows an excellent plumber who might be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
noting that issues #680 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/680 #522 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/522 #426 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/426 #583 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/583 #748 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/748 are records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant and productive comments.
Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples time on it.
@CORCpete https://github.com/CORCpete will be interested not only because he has an upcoming booking.
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There is spare pipe, a cutter and fittings on board to fix the pipe. Spare pipe comes in two colours that I think Paul procured previously. Gear is located in fwd port cabin under the seat.
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I had a closer look this afternoon and the leak appears to be in the short pipe itself, about half way along its length, not at the connector. Peter W.
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Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem child. Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that only sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to NZ. Might be worth a look.
Here's the link to part: https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html $12. I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed edges that lead to leaks.....
Paul Baston
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Hi @pcbaston https://github.com/pcbaston
Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain https://github.com/pjwain. Just yesterday water water was found spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there has been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The pressurised water system is now out of actions.
In previous posts @delcosta https://github.com/delcosta and yourself have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the system, keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne has had to fix an leak in the same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short, blind, blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe that leaked for Allister.
Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in the week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538 https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538 knows an excellent plumber who might be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
noting that issues #680 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/680 #522 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/522 #426 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/426 #583 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/583 #748 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/748 are records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant and productive comments.
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@CORCpete https://github.com/CORCpete will be interested not only because he has an upcoming booking.
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Peter, that's an easy fix. Well done in locating the source
There is spare pipe onboard. Can't recall where.
The connectors let go if you push in the pipe and hold the centre ring. Installation is just push in. Same as the 8mm connectors for water filters if you ever had one.
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 18:33 pjwain, @.***> wrote:
I had a closer look this afternoon and the leak appears to be in the short pipe itself, about half way along its length, not at the connector. Peter W.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 5:16 pm Paul Baston, @.***> wrote:
Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem child. Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that only sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to NZ. Might be worth a look.
Here's the link to part: https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html $12. I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed edges that lead to leaks.....
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, @.***> wrote:
Hi @pcbaston https://github.com/pcbaston
Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain https://github.com/pjwain. Just yesterday water water was found spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there has been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The pressurised water system is now out of actions.
In previous posts @delcosta https://github.com/delcosta and yourself have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the system, keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne has had to fix an leak in the same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short, blind, blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe that leaked for Allister.
Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in the week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538 https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538 knows an excellent plumber who might be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
noting that issues #680 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/680 #522 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/522 #426 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/426 #583 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/583 #748 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/748 are records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant and productive comments.
Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples time on it.
@CORCpete https://github.com/CORCpete will be interested not only because he has an upcoming booking.
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Thank you Paul. We found the spare pipe and cutter, and managed to separate the damaged pipe from the plug connector, but the T-junction connector was stuck fast, so I'll leave it for you to work on tomorrow. Regards, Peter W.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 7:58 pm Paul Baston, @.***> wrote:
Peter, that's an easy fix. Well done in locating the source
There is spare pipe onboard. Can't recall where.
The connectors let go if you push in the pipe and hold the centre ring. Installation is just push in. Same as the 8mm connectors for water filters if you ever had one.
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 18:33 pjwain, @.***> wrote:
I had a closer look this afternoon and the leak appears to be in the short pipe itself, about half way along its length, not at the connector. Peter W.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 5:16 pm Paul Baston, @.***> wrote:
Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem child. Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that only sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to NZ. Might be worth a look.
Here's the link to part:
https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html $12. I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed edges that lead to leaks.....
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, @.***> wrote:
Hi @pcbaston https://github.com/pcbaston
Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain https://github.com/pjwain. Just yesterday water water was found spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there has been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The pressurised water system is now out of actions.
In previous posts @delcosta https://github.com/delcosta and yourself have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the system, keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne has had to fix an leak in the same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short, blind, blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe that leaked for Allister.
Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in the week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538 https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538 knows an excellent plumber who might be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
noting that issues #680 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/680
522
https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/522
426
https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/426
583
https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/583
748
https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/748 are records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant and productive comments.
Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples time on it.
@CORCpete https://github.com/CORCpete will be interested not only because he has an upcoming booking.
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On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 21:44 pjwain, @.***> wrote:
Thank you Paul. We found the spare pipe and cutter, and managed to separate the damaged pipe from the plug connector, but the T-junction connector was stuck fast, so I'll leave it for you to work on tomorrow. Regards, Peter W.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 7:58 pm Paul Baston, @.***> wrote:
Peter, that's an easy fix. Well done in locating the source
There is spare pipe onboard. Can't recall where.
The connectors let go if you push in the pipe and hold the centre ring. Installation is just push in. Same as the 8mm connectors for water filters if you ever had one.
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 18:33 pjwain, @.***> wrote:
I had a closer look this afternoon and the leak appears to be in the short pipe itself, about half way along its length, not at the connector. Peter W.
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 5:16 pm Paul Baston, @.***> wrote:
Interesting that the drain hose fitting is really the only problem child. Perhaps it's the fitting or seal that needs replacing. 15mm diam from memory, unlike RV stuff that's only 10mm. Found a shop in QBYN that only sells online, but offers pickup previously for spare pipe I took to NZ. Might be worth a look.
Here's the link to part:
https://www.caravansplus.com.au/jg-tee-15mm-push-on-fitting-p-5416.html $12. I thought I also bought the cheap cutter previously to avoid frayed edges that lead to leaks.....
Paul Baston
On Sat, 20 Jan 2024, 14:27 Steven Ring, @.***> wrote:
Hi @pcbaston https://github.com/pcbaston
Unfortunately this problem has happened again to @pjwain https://github.com/pjwain. Just yesterday water water was found spraying from a leak near the hot water system and, once again, there has been minor flooding of fresh water into under floor compartments. The pressurised water system is now out of actions.
In previous posts @delcosta https://github.com/delcosta and yourself have suggested ways of fixing the problem including re-plumbing the system, keeping lines long, fixing pipes to bulkhead to ensure that they do not vibrate and are maintained in proper alignment with the fitting.
In recent weeks @allister-polkinghorne https://github.com/allister-polkinghorne has had to fix an leak in the same area and has recent relevant experience. Once again by trimming the split end and refitting. Yesterdays fault appeared to be the short, blind, blue drain hose which is now only 100mm long. This was the same pipe that leaked for Allister.
Could we all please workshop a permanent solution to this problem? Chris Smith, our new found plumber, is on standby to work on this problem in the week after Australia Day if we don't fix it in the meantime. If we do proceed with Chris, he will need instructions. @SamMcDonald2538 https://github.com/SamMcDonald2538 knows an excellent plumber who might be able to help us while the boat is in Bateman's bay.
noting that issues #680 https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/680
522
https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/522
426
https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/426
583
https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/583
748
https://github.com/CanberraOceanRacingClub/namadgi3/issues/748 are records of this problem repeating itself. All these issues have relevant and productive comments.
Making this priority 1 as it is damaging the boat and spoiling peoples time on it.
@CORCpete https://github.com/CORCpete will be interested not only because he has an upcoming booking.
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Problem fixed. Several attempts at repair resulted in a very short tube, which split during Peter Wain's booking Compression supports were inserted into old 2' length and reinserted. After a couple of attempts, the connector sealed and leaks were no longer present. A day so far with no leakage. Issue CLOSED.
Nice work Paul!
Persistent spray from inlet pipe. This may explain the periodic unexpected operation of the cold water pressure pump.