Sugiere una plataforma de colaboración abierta / Suggest a platform

[Carotejada]

Tiempo sugerido en este ISSUE: 10 minutes

En este ISSUE queremos que contribuyas con sugerencias sobre qué plataforma virtual es la más indicada para propiciar la colaboración en este proyecto. Estos son algunos de los requerimientos:

1. Fácil de administrar. Que no requiera conocimiento experto en código.
2. Facil de usar. Que los usuarios encuentren fácil contribuir, consultar y participar.
3. Que permita publicar material audiovisual, fotografías, videos, documentos, etc.
4. Que sea gratuita.

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Suggested time on this ISSUE: 10 minutes

We want you to contribute with suggestions on which virtual platform is best suited to encourage collaboration. Here are some of the requirements:

1. Easy to manage. No pro code skills required.
2. Easy to use. That users must find it easy to contribute, consult and participate.
3. It should allow audiovisual material, photographs, videos, documents, etc.
4. Free.

[jotaelese]

A través de los sentidos de la vista y del oído, queremos compartir un lenguaje audiovisual que narre diversos momentos laborales, mostrando buenas y malas experiencias que día a día viven los trabajadores en una empresa, en un proyecto y en un proceso. De igual forma queremos crear contenidos audiovisuales que faciliten y den peso a la comunicación interna de diferentes compañías.

Nuestro argumento es el siguiente: "vale más una imagen que mil palabras", y todo ésto se hace realidad con aspectos estéticos formados con armonía, agrado y belleza, por medio de conceptos didácticos y pedagógicos, que faciliten la comprensión y el aprendizaje técnico laboral.

[jvallera]

Here are some that come to mind:

Trello Github Slack red pen (for design mostly) InVision Discourse

[amirad]

Ummm github? slack? trello?

[amirad]

oh wow @jvallera - we keep doing that this week #twinning

[Carotejada]

jjajajajjaja @jvallera @amirad you're the best!

[alexfuser]

Dependiendo para que lo necesitas:

Si es para gestión de tareas o seguimiento de las mismas:

Trello [Redbooth]https://redbooth.com Github project todoist

Canales de comunicación

telegram Slack Hangout

Creo que hay que especificar primero, para que se usara y el grado de conocimiento de las personas a participar. De cierta forma, en este momento ya se esta usando Github y eso ya es tener cierto grado de conocimientos para usarlo y entenderlo para colaborar.

[Carotejada]

@alexfuser gracias por participar! La plataforma tiene como objetivos:

1. Que las personas compartan sus experiencias, en forma de relatos ya sean escritos, gráficos, audiovisuales.
2. Que permita la discusión alrededor de los temas compartidos.

Creo que Github y Discourse son buenas opciones, pero estamos abiertos a conocer acerca de otras herramientas que puedan ser utilizadas!

[alexfuser]

@Carotejada genial, pero creo que sería entonces conocer el nivel de conocimiento y adopción de herramientas de los involucrados, eso ayudaría a saber que tipo de herramienta elegir.

[benhylau]

Hola! Estoy muy interesado en este proyecto. Aunque recien estoy tomando mis primeras clases de espanol, hare todo lo posible para poder estar involucrado.

I prefer Matrix.org over Slack for messaging and have had good success with it. Here are some observations:

• Guest Access and Open Membership allowed new users to browse room history and say hi as Guest before creating an account, and if they decide to stick around there is no invite needed, this makes the process rather frictionless without management overhead
• Bridge to Other Services allowed people to choose the platform they want to use, a lot of our rooms are bridged to IRC and some to Slack channels of preexisting groups
• Matrix Homeserver Federation allows Matrix account from any server to join rooms hosted on itself or any other Matrix server, we have users from many other servers, some of them are self-hosted ones, and this also allows room history to live on in their homeservers even if our server discontinues
• Private vs. Public Rooms often times we start private conversations only to later discover that we want to make the thread into a public room, this cannot be done in Slack but is simple with Matrix

I think having a non-silo'd instant messaging service where people hang out, and new people can freely hop on, was essential in building our community. Though neither Matrix / Slack is good for organizing persistent content or grouping discussions around a particular topic. I have never used Discourse, but it looks like a very good complement to Matrix. I would've preferred a version of Discourse that is federated, so information is not centrally stored, in case your service discontinues. For persistent content, Git + Github is probably best, but the technical barrier to entry (even with the Github edit UI and easy filing of Github Issues) still prevents some people from participating. I think Discourse is a reasonable choice to group discussions, and hopefully the results can make their way into Git repos.

As for project organization, we use Wekan because we prefer self-hosted open-source options, but it lacks key features like search and subscribe/notify in comparison to Trello. Our Wekan board isn't very active. Most project coordination just happens over Matrix in topic-specific channels.

Here is how we have Matrix and Wekan set up at the moment: https://github.com/tomeshnet/documents/tree/master/service_setup

[Carotejada]

Hola @benhylau! Thanks so much for your interest in our project, it will be a pleasure to have you join us!!! I will go through all your suggestions and links, and will reach out to you to figure out in what ways we can collaborate.

Also, it is so cool that you're learning Spanish :) Puedo ayudarte si necesitas!

@alexfuser agreed. Our users tech skills are so diverse, since we integrate manufacturing workers (some of them with a pretty basic education), directors and managers. This is why we need to choose a tool that does not become an entry barrier for any of them, a tool that is inclusive and that means "easy to use".

I agree with @benhylau that Discourse may be a reasonable option. I did not know Matrix and Wekan either. I'm going to dig in and learn how we can use those in our project.

Thank you both for taking the time to read and contribute!