Open jhnwllr opened 2 years ago
Chrysididae is a different SF sector, not Zobodat anymore: https://www.catalogueoflife.org/data/taxon/87J
The original SF does not have that genus listed: http://chrysididae.speciesfile.org/Common/basic/Taxa.aspx?TaxonNameID=1217612
@jhnwllr is there any evidence for this placement?
Yes there is. Wikipedia has that placement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysis_(wasp)
And claims Chrysis to be a large genus with over 1000 species. Contrary there are only 2 species in COL/Zobodat: https://www.catalogueoflife.org/data/taxon/3PF5
@yroskov It seems this is a serious gap in COL. The subfamily Chrysidinae with over 3000 species is not treated in Zobodat nor the Chrysididae Species File which deals only with 2 subfamilies: Amiseginae and Loboscelidiinae. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysidinae
Bugguide has good coverage: https://bugguide.net/node/view/6946
... which references
The chrysidid wasps of the world By Kimsey L.S., Bohart R.M. Oxford University Press. 652 pp., 1990 ISBN: 0-19-854010-8
much of the relevant info can be found online: https://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Chrysididae https://www.chrysis.net
So there is even a dedicated Chrysis site which runs for more than 20 years already! https://www.chrysis.net
@yroskov we should get in touch with them.
There seem to be 5 subfamilies, so COL is missing 3 right now: https://www.chrysis.net/chrysididae/systematics-of-chrysididae/
Subfamily Cleptinae Subfamily Amiseginae Subfamily Loboscelidiinae Subfamily Chrysidinae Subfamily Parnopinae
Genus Chrysis is removed from Masaridae family now (i.e. in April edition).
It seems this is a serious gap in COL. The subfamily Chrysidinae with over 3000 species
Indeed, it's a gap in the CoL.
I'll contact Chrysididae Species File about their plans.
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Also the families Tiphiidae, Scoliidae, Sapygidae, Bradynobaenidae and probably more are void in COL which are another 600 species at least. Worse, COL also lacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutillidae which according to Wikipedia is some 7000 species in 118 genera!
And while we're at it. Ants in https://antcat.org are supposedly the best source and have over 4000 more species than COL/ITIS does today. I have created a new issue for ants: https://github.com/CatalogueOfLife/data/issues/517
@dhobern, all of these - for TG discussions, including data availability and IPRs.
The Chrysididae species file specifically says on its home page that it is a resource on just two subfamilies: http://chrysididae.speciesfile.org/HomePage/Chrysididae/HomePage.aspx
We whould be grafting these subfamiles below the family rather than using them as the whole family.
The only remaining Chrysis species in COL are names that have been synonymised to species in other groups. Hence COL "thinks" Chrysis is the name for a genus elsewhere.
I'm not sure what other Chrysis content we have, but I suspect there will be some.
These Hymenoptera groups are going to get worse rather than better. Most of these have such large genera than no one will be able to review the entire list unless they dedicate their lives just to that small group. And a few months ago, the Pteromalidae was torn apart into many separate, more monophyletic families.
This would be a place for synthetic construction to fill the gap.
In the meantime, fix this Species File so it is grafted as two subfamilies into the family Chrysididae.
I'll raise this one at the TG too.
There are many datasets with the genus Chrysis. Which of these has most species I can't easily say. There is also a botanical genus Chrysis Reneaulme ex DC.
The french TaxREF dataset appears most complete from all CLB sources: https://www.checklistbank.org/dataset/2008/taxon/185157
There are many other incomplete ones. I have created a project that merges all of these, primarily out of curiosity how the new merge tools work, but maybe it is also useful for COL: https://www.checklistbank.org/catalogue/9885/sector
Fauna Europaea alone has around 180: https://fauna-eu.org/cdm_dataportal/taxon/90408633-63a3-4b9e-a80e-be42389ba586 The Australian Faunal Directory has 25: https://biodiversity.org.au/afd/taxa/Chrysis/checklist - I think most of ours are in different genera: https://inaturalist.ala.org.au/observations?place_id=any&taxon_id=126149&user_id=dhobern
There was a family catalogue published in 1990.
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There are many datasets with the genus Chrysis https://www.checklistbank.org/namesindex/481130/related. Which of these has most species I can't easily say. There is also a botanical genus Chrysis Reneaulme ex DC. https://www.checklistbank.org/dataset/2006/taxon/8285-1
This one is unlikely complete, but has 85 Hymenoptera species:
AFD has over 50 https://www.checklistbank.org/dataset/127379/taxon/65dea431-daed-43b6-9654-c5a7c6f7d7e9
and there are other incomplete ones. I might try and create a project that merges all of these, just for curiosity of how the tools work, but maybe it is also useful for COL.
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CoL claims Chrysis in Masaridae User claims Chrysis in Chrysididae
Link to effected CoL webpages: https://www.catalogueoflife.org/data/taxon/3PF5