Add genus Dinomyrmex (Formicidae) and associated species

[CecSve]

Describe the problem: This is based on original feedback provided to GBIF. The genus Dinomyrmex is currently not in COL and neither is the associated species Dinomyrmex gigas. On GBIF the genus is registered as doubtful due to the missing species, and because the source for the backbone, IRMNG, only contains genus level information, although the Plazi treatment links to the updated source.

Link to effected CoL webpages: Camponotus gigas (Latreille, 1802) - based on the GBIF feedback, the species is currently listed as a subspecies of Camponotus, as Camponotus (Dinomyrmex) gigas, although I am uncertain which subspecies of Camponotus is meant in this context.

Literature references: https://www.biotaxa.org/Zootaxa/article/view/zootaxa.4072.3.4/18933

[yroskov]

@DaveNicolson, I am forwarding this to you, because CoL has Formicidae from ITIS.

[DaveNicolson]

The Formicidae in ITIS were provided as a whole from the Hymenoptera Name Server (from Norm Johnson), a resource that is no longer available. There have been discussions of sourcing the ants for COL from antcat.org (and ITIS will likely do the same). Norm Johnson suggested avoiding antcat.org, as it is also derivative of his prior database. In any case, the existing Formicidae from ITIS was complete but is now getting quite out of date, so issues like the one reported here are going to be a problem for the foreseeable future, unfortunately.

[TonyRees]

Hi Dave, all,

I replied to this particular issue on the relevant GitHub thread (updated the status of Dinomyrmex in IRMNG following Ward et al., 2016); since that work is entirely concerned with changes at rank with no new genera or subgenera proposed, that paper did not otherwise come into IRMNG's orbit which currently is concerned mainly with adding new genus-group names to the database, a small but significant weakness in our current approach to IRMNG updates, that however might be soled one day via ongoing comparisons with other up-to-date catalogues, subject to resources of course!! (and the latter being in existence...)

On a side note, if anyone is interested in discovering recently published genus-group names in Formicidae, IRMNG should have the majority of these from e.g. 2005-2022/3 or so since we have been doing literature trawls (chiefly but not exclusively via ION / Zoological Record) to catch these. Older names (chiefly ex Neave) will also generally be held, although not all might yet be assigned to family (e.g. might be under "Hymenoptera (awaiting allocation)" and similarly, might not all have been assessed for currency at this time (in other words, held as status = "uncertain (unassessed)". In the particular case pointed out here, the name was an older one ex Neave (authority = Ashmead, 1905), so it was until just now in the class of uncertain/unassessed names, also not listed explicitly in Formicidae, both issues now addressed.

I just checked, and at this time IRMNG currently holds 50 genus-group names proposed in 2000-2009, 35 for the period 2010-2019, and 21 for 2020 and later, all with original citations and (generally) current taxonomic status. I can supply these if anyone wants, or they can be extracted live via the IRMNG web interface; alternatively, they will be included in the next (2024) IRMNG data dump, due within the next couple of months hopefully. As always, a few names may be missing, but hopefully not too many.

Regards - Tony

Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia https://about.me/TonyRees

On Fri, 24 May 2024 at 04:03, DaveNicolson @.***> wrote:

The Formicidae in ITIS were provided as a whole from the Hymenoptera Name Server (from Norm Johnson), a resource that is no longer available. There have been discussions of sourcing the ants for COL from antcat.org (and ITIS will likely do the same). Norm Johnson suggested avoiding antcat.org, as it is also derivative of his prior database. In any case, the existing Formicidae from ITIS was complete but is now getting quite out of date, so issues like the one reported here are going to be a problem for the foreseeable future, unfortunately.

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[TonyRees]

" 50 genus-group names proposed in 2000-2009, 35 for the period 2010-2019, and 21 for 2020" - as currently allocated to Formicidae of course (not all names!!).

• Tony

On Fri, 24 May 2024 at 05:26, Tony Rees @.***> wrote:

Hi Dave, all,

I replied to this particular issue on the relevant GitHub thread (updated the status of Dinomyrmex in IRMNG following Ward et al., 2016); since that work is entirely concerned with changes at rank with no new genera or subgenera proposed, that paper did not otherwise come into IRMNG's orbit which currently is concerned mainly with adding new genus-group names to the database, a small but significant weakness in our current approach to IRMNG updates, that however might be soled one day via ongoing comparisons with other up-to-date catalogues, subject to resources of course!! (and the latter being in existence...)

On a side note, if anyone is interested in discovering recently published genus-group names in Formicidae, IRMNG should have the majority of these from e.g. 2005-2022/3 or so since we have been doing literature trawls (chiefly but not exclusively via ION / Zoological Record) to catch these. Older names (chiefly ex Neave) will also generally be held, although not all might yet be assigned to family (e.g. might be under "Hymenoptera (awaiting allocation)" and similarly, might not all have been assessed for currency at this time (in other words, held as status = "uncertain (unassessed)". In the particular case pointed out here, the name was an older one ex Neave (authority = Ashmead, 1905), so it was until just now in the class of uncertain/unassessed names, also not listed explicitly in Formicidae, both issues now addressed.

I just checked, and at this time IRMNG currently holds 50 genus-group names proposed in 2000-2009, 35 for the period 2010-2019, and 21 for 2020 and later, all with original citations and (generally) current taxonomic status. I can supply these if anyone wants, or they can be extracted live via the IRMNG web interface; alternatively, they will be included in the next (2024) IRMNG data dump, due within the next couple of months hopefully. As always, a few names may be missing, but hopefully not too many.

Regards - Tony

Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia https://about.me/TonyRees

On Fri, 24 May 2024 at 04:03, DaveNicolson @.***> wrote:

The Formicidae in ITIS were provided as a whole from the Hymenoptera Name Server (from Norm Johnson), a resource that is no longer available. There have been discussions of sourcing the ants for COL from antcat.org (and ITIS will likely do the same). Norm Johnson suggested avoiding antcat.org, as it is also derivative of his prior database. In any case, the existing Formicidae from ITIS was complete but is now getting quite out of date, so issues like the one reported here are going to be a problem for the foreseeable future, unfortunately.

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[TonyRees]

Antcat is on my ever-growing list of catalogues to use to update/correlate IRMNG with.

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From: Tony Rees @.> Sent: May 23, 2024 16:04 To: CatalogueOfLife/data @.> Cc: CatalogueOfLife/data @.>; Subscribed @.>; Jean-Sébastien Girard @.***> Subject: Re: [CatalogueOfLife/data] Add genus Dinomyrmex (Formicidae) and associated species (Issue gbif/portal-feedback#655)

" 50 genus-group names proposed in 2000-2009, 35 for the period 2010-2019, and 21 for 2020" - as currently allocated to Formicidae of course (not all names!!).

• Tony

On Fri, 24 May 2024 at 05:26, Tony Rees @.**@.>> wrote: Hi Dave, all,

I replied to this particular issue on the relevant GitHub thread (updated the status of Dinomyrmex in IRMNG following Ward et al., 2016); since that work is entirely concerned with changes at rank with no new genera or subgenera proposed, that paper did not otherwise come into IRMNG's orbit which currently is concerned mainly with adding new genus-group names to the database, a small but significant weakness in our current approach to IRMNG updates, that however might be soled one day via ongoing comparisons with other up-to-date catalogues, subject to resources of course!! (and the latter being in existence...)

On a side note, if anyone is interested in discovering recently published genus-group names in Formicidae, IRMNG should have the majority of these from e.g. 2005-2022/3 or so since we have been doing literature trawls (chiefly but not exclusively via ION / Zoological Record) to catch these. Older names (chiefly ex Neave) will also generally be held, although not all might yet be assigned to family (e.g. might be under "Hymenoptera (awaiting allocation)" and similarly, might not all have been assessed for currency at this time (in other words, held as status = "uncertain (unassessed)". In the particular case pointed out here, the name was an older one ex Neave (authority = Ashmead, 1905), so it was until just now in the class of uncertain/unassessed names, also not listed explicitly in Formicidae, both issues now addressed.

I just checked, and at this time IRMNG currently holds 50 genus-group names proposed in 2000-2009, 35 for the period 2010-2019, and 21 for 2020 and later, all with original citations and (generally) current taxonomic status. I can supply these if anyone wants, or they can be extracted live via the IRMNG web interface; alternatively, they will be included in the next (2024) IRMNG data dump, due within the next couple of months hopefully. As always, a few names may be missing, but hopefully not too many.

Regards - Tony

Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia https://about.me/TonyRees

On Fri, 24 May 2024 at 04:03, DaveNicolson @.**@.>> wrote:

The Formicidae in ITIS were provided as a whole from the Hymenoptera Name Server (from Norm Johnson), a resource that is no longer available. There have been discussions of sourcing the ants for COL from antcat.orghttp://antcat.org (and ITIS will likely do the same). Norm Johnson suggested avoiding antcat.orghttp://antcat.org, as it is also derivative of his prior database. In any case, the existing Formicidae from ITIS was complete but is now getting quite out of date, so issues like the one reported here are going to be a problem for the foreseeable future, unfortunately.

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[mdoering]

please see https://github.com/CatalogueOfLife/data/issues/517 for Antcat discussion