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Text processing code to convert specific spreadsheets to RDF as initial content for the Mental Health Database (MHDB)
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🖇 Project ~ Disorder #79

Closed shnizzedy closed 6 years ago

shnizzedy commented 6 years ago

How does 02/23 mentalhealthtechnology3 + OCEAN :: Project :: project relate to _02/23 mentalhealthtechnology3 + OCEAN :: Project :: disorder_index_? My intuition is that project is the subject and disorder is the object.

anirudh4792 commented 6 years ago

project addresses/inferred to address disorder.

eg., the wearable to track food habits addresses eating disorders

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shnizzedy commented 6 years ago

I'm sorry, I didn't mean for you to answer each bullet; those were intended as choose-one options (this one? or this one?)

So how do I know, for encoding in our graph, if a project addresses or is inferred (how? by whom?) to address a disorder?

anirudh4792 commented 6 years ago

In that case,

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I'm sorry, I didn't mean for you to answer each bullet; those were intended as choose-one options (this one? or this one?)

So how do I know, for encoding in our graph, if a project addresses or is inferred (how? by whom?) to address a disorder?

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shnizzedy commented 6 years ago

Do you have a definition or IRI for "addresses"?

Alternatively and/or additionally, does this option fit the bill for this relationship?

Disorder health-lifesci:possibleTreatment project

A possible treatment to address this condition, sign or symptom.

This predicate implies that each project used in such a statement is a health-lifesci:MedicalTherapy:

Any medical intervention designed to prevent, treat, and cure human diseases and medical conditions, including both curative and palliative therapies. Medical therapies are typically processes of care relying upon pharmacotherapy, behavioral therapy, supportive therapy (with fluid or nutrition for example), or detoxification (e.g. hemodialysis) aimed at improving or preventing a health condition.

anirudh4792 commented 6 years ago

For health-lifesci:possibleTreatment http://health-lifesci.schema.org/possibleTreatment, I am not comfortable using the word treatment or therapy, especially in relation to mental health (I feel its one of those controversial terms, and could explain further in person), and there are no therapies or treatments in the db.

Regarding addresses (closest synonym I can think of is deals with, tackles), I am not able to get an appropriate dictionary/wiki link or other links, and so gave my own definition - directs attention to an issue with the intent to improve it.

I am a bit lost on how you are getting these definitions from schema.org or dcterms. Please let me know when I can drop by at your convenience.

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Do you have a definition or IRI for "addresses"?

Alternatively and/or additionally, does this option fit the bill for this relationship? Disorder health-lifesci:possibleTreatment http://health-lifesci.schema.org/possibleTreatment project

A possible treatment to address this condition, sign or symptom.

This predicate implies that each project used in such a statement is a health-lifesci:MedicalTherapy http://health-lifesci.schema.org/MedicalTherapy:

Any medical intervention designed to prevent, treat, and cure human diseases and medical conditions, including both curative and palliative therapies. Medical therapies are typically processes of care relying upon pharmacotherapy, behavioral therapy, supportive therapy (with fluid or nutrition for example), or detoxification (e.g. hemodialysis) aimed at improving or preventing a health condition.

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shnizzedy commented 6 years ago

For health-lifesci:possibleTreatment, I am not comfortable using the word treatment or therapy, especially in relation to mental health (I feel its one of those controversial terms, and could explain further in person), and there are no therapies or treatments in the db.

Fair enough, although I feel like "addresses", "deals with" and "tackles" all imply solving a problem while "treatment" and "therapy" imply an attempt that may or may not succeed.

I'm less trying to advocate for health-lifesci:possibleTreatment here than trying to say that I think "addresses", "deals with" and "tackles" have at least the same problems as "treatment" and "therapy", perhaps even moreso.

Regarding addresses (closest synonym I can think of is deals with, tackles), I am not able to get an appropriate dictionary/wiki link or other links, and so gave my own definition - directs attention to an issue with the intent to improve it.

I think this definition is on the right track but I'm not quite satisfied with the wording yet (sorry!).

directs attention to an issue with the intent to improve it

So a project directs attention to an issue and intends to improve that issue by thus directing that attention? Intuitively I feel like attention is overemphasized in this definition, but maybe I'm off-base. Are these projects all attempts to intervene or are they just informational? Some of each? Other purposes?

I am a bit lost on how you are getting these definitions from schema.org or dcterms. Please let me know when I can drop by at your convenience.

Any time before 6!

anirudh4792 commented 6 years ago

I agree. Attention and improvement may not be appropriate words to use in the definition of a relationship between disorder and project. It could be to define the relationship between project and thing, which we will handle eventually.

I'm on my way. Thanks.

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For health-lifesci:possibleTreatment http://health-lifesci.schema.org/possibleTreatment, I am not comfortable using the word treatment or therapy, especially in relation to mental health (I feel its one of those controversial terms, and could explain further in person), and there are no therapies or treatments in the db.

Fair enough, although I feel like "addresses", "deals with" and "tackles" all imply solving a problem while "treatment" and "therapy" imply an attempt that may or may not succeed.

I'm less trying to advocate for health-lifesci:possibleTreatment here than trying to say that I think "addresses", "deals with" and "tackles" have at least the same problems as "treatment" and "therapy", perhaps even moreso.

Regarding addresses (closest synonym I can think of is deals with, tackles), I am not able to get an appropriate dictionary/wiki link or other links, and so gave my own definition - directs attention to an issue with the intent to improve it.

I think this definition is on the right track but I'm not quite satisfied with the wording yet (sorry!).

directs attention to an issue with the intent to improve it

So a project directs attention to an issue and intends to improve that issue by thus directing that attention? Intuitively I feel like attention is overemphasized in this definition, but maybe I'm off-base. Are these projects all attempts to intervene or are they just informational? Some of each? Other purposes?

I am a bit lost on how you are getting these definitions from schema.org or dcterms. Please let me know when I can drop by at your convenience.

Any time before 6!

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shnizzedy commented 6 years ago

😎 project dcterms:subject disorder