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Add new Snitch type #29

Closed Goldmattress closed 8 years ago

Goldmattress commented 9 years ago

Add a snitch that's a diamond block, identical in behavior to juke box but cuboid of 20 and it's own expiry time config option.

rourke750 commented 9 years ago

@drjawa What do you think. Going to assign you for discussion.

ghost commented 9 years ago

What is the goal of this change? On Jun 20, 2015 1:38 AM, "rourke750" notifications@github.com wrote:

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ghost commented 9 years ago

Not against but want to understand purpose. On Jun 20, 2015 1:39 AM, "Andrew Jawa" dr.andrew.jawa@gmail.com wrote:

What is the goal of this change? On Jun 20, 2015 1:38 AM, "rourke750" notifications@github.com wrote:

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erocs commented 9 years ago

Looks like only a larger snitch field. Is the current 11 block 'radius' insufficient to hide the snitch from X-Ray with the current orebfuscator?

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Dr. Andrew Jawa notifications@github.com wrote:

Not against but want to understand purpose. On Jun 20, 2015 1:39 AM, "Andrew Jawa" dr.andrew.jawa@gmail.com wrote:

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ghost commented 9 years ago

Well currently snitches aren't being obfuscated at all due to oreobfuscator being borked. Adding jukes and noteblocks to list does not with spigots ofc.

_>

Maybe we should just convert snitches to be blocks that we can properly obfuscate (Though that is the lazy and bad way out).

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 5:53 AM, erocs notifications@github.com wrote:

Looks like only a larger snitch field. Is the current 11 block 'radius' insufficient to hide the snitch from X-Ray with the current orebfuscator?

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Not against but want to understand purpose. On Jun 20, 2015 1:39 AM, "Andrew Jawa" dr.andrew.jawa@gmail.com wrote:

What is the goal of this change? On Jun 20, 2015 1:38 AM, "rourke750" notifications@github.com wrote:

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ttk2 commented 9 years ago

either way why larger radius snitches? I guess lower matience at much higher cost, which I guess is reasonable, but even a factor of 9 is pretty affordable to some people.

Does increase the theft chance though.

Wait, how do we keep all placed diamond blocks from becoming snitches by default?

Goldmattress commented 9 years ago

The way we do the other blocks.

Its larger and nore expensive to make snitching large areas easier, at the cist of less efficiency On 20 Jun 2015 14:20, "ttk2" notifications@github.com wrote:

either way why larger radius snitches? I guess lower matience at much higher cost, which I guess is reasonable, but even a factor of 9 is pretty affordable to some people.

Does increase the theft chance though.

Wait, how do we keep all placed diamond blocks from becoming snitches by default?

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ttk2 commented 9 years ago

I can get the argument, what do you mean the same way we do for other blocks? The old crouch while you place thing?

Goldmattress commented 9 years ago

You really haven't played civcraft in a while have you.

Certain blocks when reinforced automatically become snitches on placement On 21 Jun 2015 21:15, "ttk2" notifications@github.com wrote:

I can get the argument, what do you mean the same way we do for other blocks? The old crouch while you place thing?

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ttk2 commented 9 years ago

I am aware, but people use DIamond blocks in decorative purposes, or for beacons, should they just automatically make a beacon of snitches?

Goldmattress commented 9 years ago

/ja mute the group

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I am aware, but people use DIamond blocks in decorative purposes, or for beacons, should they just automatically make a beacon of snitches?

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ttk2 commented 9 years ago

That's a horrible solution. Crouch placing is probably the way to go.

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/ja mute the group

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I am aware, but people use DIamond blocks in decorative purposes, or for beacons, should they just automatically make a beacon of snitches?

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Goldmattress commented 9 years ago

Please no, I fucking hated that in PS.

No one is complaining about the current system, it's completely fine we've been doing it this way for 2+ years now.

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:26 PM, ttk2 notifications@github.com wrote:

That's a horrible solution. Crouch placing is probably the way to go.

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015, 2:27 AM Goldmattress notifications@github.com wrote:

/ja mute the group

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ProgrammerDan commented 9 years ago

Could just have if you don't give it a name via /janame then it doesn't record / is inert.

Goldmattress commented 9 years ago

Nooo, I've forgotten to name thousands of snitches and I know a lot of people never bother, just make a command so that when you break the block it removes the snitch but keeps the block and reinforcement.

It is so much more common to be using these blocks in the context of JA that it should be assumed that that is what the player is doing.

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Could just have if you don't give it a name via /janame then it doesn't record / is inert.

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ProgrammerDan commented 9 years ago

I buy it. Can't think of the last time I used a Dblock as decoration.

ttk2 commented 9 years ago

very well then, I agree on everything except maybe having members refresh them, if we can think of a better mechanic maybe we should do that.

Having incentive to need to trust more people to help maintain such a network is very nice IHMO.

Goldmattress commented 9 years ago

Well if your set on that a longer time till cull should do the same in the long run On 22 Jun 2015 22:35, "ttk2" notifications@github.com wrote:

very well then, I agree on everything except maybe having members refresh them, if we can think of a better mechanic maybe we should do that.

Having incentive to need to trust more people to help maintain such a network is very nice IHMO.

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ttk2 commented 9 years ago

sounds good.

Goldmattress commented 8 years ago

Anyone have time to do this at some point?

ttk2 commented 8 years ago

I don't think anyone sees this as a priority.

Goldmattress commented 8 years ago

No not at all, I'm just wondering before I write better documentation for JA.

ttk2 commented 8 years ago

skip it for now.

Maxopoly commented 8 years ago

This feature is no longer desired and the general idea should rather be part of a refactor to allow more dynamic snitch configurations