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[BUG] raise dead cooldown from dead ghoul #402

Open knasen88 opened 2 years ago

knasen88 commented 2 years ago

1. Current Behavior

1.1. Description

When a ghoul currently dies as unholy, it doesn't incur the 30 second cooldown on the spell and you can instantly resummon it.

1.2. How to Reproduce

  1. let pet die
  2. observe how you can instantly resummon it

1.3 Source Material

just let ur pet die on live servers see that you can instantly resummon it.

2. Expected Behavior

2.1. Description

30 second CD whenever ghoul dies (or 3 minutes for non unholy i guess)

2.2 Source Material

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDgk9-N2bMA https://youtu.be/paskamMBWZ0?t=1089 https://youtu.be/zDgk9-N2bMA?t=35 https://youtu.be/zDgk9-N2bMA?t=84 https://youtu.be/BYK6OkFwbv8?t=54 https://youtu.be/BYK6OkFwbv8?t=235 https://youtu.be/BYK6OkFwbv8?t=334 https://youtu.be/BYK6OkFwbv8?t=503 https://youtu.be/BYK6OkFwbv8?t=581 https://youtu.be/ufVSmB_hH0s?t=171 https://youtu.be/ufVSmB_hH0s?t=318 https://youtu.be/ufVSmB_hH0s?t=376 https://youtu.be/ufVSmB_hH0s?t=510 https://youtu.be/_YMPcyq4iVQ?t=279 https://youtu.be/_YMPcyq4iVQ?t=367 https://youtu.be/haY0S9aaoh0?t=283 https://youtu.be/0roGbL3ljXw?t=56 https://web.archive.org/web/20140331125324/http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/71616-unholy-dps-335-king-of-anything This talent should only be taken if you have trouble keeping your Ghoul alive. If you do, it becomes invaluable, as a dead Ghoul is a large portion of your dps down the drain (due to 30 seconds of absolutely zero Ghoul damage,

Cleavis commented 2 years ago

more source material for reference https://youtu.be/ZHL0BaW3Ye8?t=504 https://youtu.be/DJAYULMSAzw?t=537 https://youtu.be/paskamMBWZ0?t=1944

unholy should incur a 30s CD from the time ghoul dies, not from when ghoul is summoned.

NuptupTDOW commented 2 years ago

Just throwing this out there, while I can definitely see this as a bug, it sure has been fun doing AoE pulls in dungeons and doing a hard-cast corpse explosion, then re-summoning and doing another hard-cast corpse explosion back to back (after giving the ghoul enough time to actually spawn and not dropping diseases). It's some hilariously brutal AoE burst damage when stacked with Death and Decay and your typical Unholy Disease damage.

JamminL commented 2 years ago

Added some sources

ollipopped commented 2 years ago

pls fix this, impacts player power in arena, raid, dungeons...what else do you need?

Rallik-Pog commented 1 year ago

this is not fixed @CharWS

Rallik-Pog commented 1 year ago

@JamminL

Teebown commented 1 year ago

Comments on blight club suggest it's fixed ![Uploading Screenshot_20221111_125949.jpg…]()

Rallik-Pog commented 1 year ago

Nah, only a successful ghoul corpse explode puts ghoul on 30s cd. Any other means of death do not put the ghoul on cd.

As a sidenote, ghoul abilities no longer reset cd IN OPEN WORLD / IN BATTLEGROUNDS. Random change. but NOT IN ARENA.

Rallik-Pog commented 1 year ago

ghoul cd's are not supposed to reset on resummon.

Gargoyle also doesn't come straight down to the ground level on summon, as well as death grip pulling players in front of wherever the DK is facing instead of melee range.

dummyaccounter commented 1 year ago

ghoul cd's are not supposed to reset on resummon.

Any evidence / source material for this?

KhalGH commented 1 year ago

ghoul cd's are not supposed to reset on resummon.

Ghoul's CD do supposed to reset on resummon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufVSmB_hH0s Dk use Gnaw+CE at 2:50, ghoul gets resummoned at 3:33 with Gnaw w/o CD Similar to https://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=160059 (3:11-3:50) Not sure if it's reported but it's bugged in current build.

JamminL commented 1 year ago

ghoul cd's are not supposed to reset on resummon.

Ghoul's CD do supposed to reset on resummon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufVSmB_hH0s Dk use Gnaw+CE at 2:50, ghoul gets resummoned at 3:33 with Gnaw w/o CD Similar to https://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=160059 (3:11-3:50) Not sure if it's reported but it's bugged in current build.

Pet abilities are resetting only in arenas, as they did back then

Miyur1 commented 1 year ago

@CharWS Raise dead still doesn't go on cooldown after death pact or pet kill

knasen88 commented 1 year ago

still bugged, doesn't go on CD. Allegedly it does if you corspe explode it so they "partially" fixed it, but main issue is still there.

knasen88 commented 1 year ago

patch 3.1 @CharWS

  • Raise Dead: Duration lowered to 60 seconds and cooldown lowered to 3 minutes. The cooldown on this ability now begins when the pet dies rather than when it is summoned.