CleverRaven / Cataclysm-DDA

Cataclysm - Dark Days Ahead. A turn-based survival game set in a post-apocalyptic world.
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more accurate drug addiction and less subgroup-insulting name calling in professions #25414

Closed tsaber closed 5 years ago

tsaber commented 5 years ago

I don't know what exactly I did to earn your disdain but I hope you can forget it for a moment for this.

Because while I greatly respect your work and accomplishment in this game the drug addiction rehab feature is insulting to me as a patient with ADD.
Of course I don't dislike all of Cataclysm. Following our latest encounter I tried not playing and it didn't work. I spend lots of hours, ask r7st. Even synchronously sleeping along my characters but when my finger presses d indefinitly my characters don't know what to do except to drop d or not or yes drop it or not or maybe now or not..

As having ADD and the tendency to substance caused by it I feel for addicts since the only difference between us is I figured out why and I didn't take opiates before reaching that point. Not like I don't get insulted enough for having something the public thinks something about. When I don't get meds I sink into chaos, I don't cry and pull my teeth out which is another example of fearmonging but one I would disregard if that meant the other parts were improved upon.

The negative feeling comes three days into amphetamine-withdrawal when the last of things that still looked ok in my room are disappearing.

I read a book once about ADD and addiction just to be able to defend myself from all the readily made bad judgements. This makes me sensitive to addict insulting stuff since it degrades them and me (since i get treated like them) into being something less than human in relation to the dude who thought of the insult who likes insulting as a way of letting off steam. I know how the public treats addicts and it's easy to just jump on the train whilst whining about the in comparison minute negative consequences of a life choice ones own brain made and is suffering from. To me there is a difference between acting according to a developmental disorder which ends in impulsive addicts or consciously doing evil in the world with no brain damage to explain it.

Those are the most hateful people when it comes to name calling. Those being in denial of their own addiction and/or wrongdoing.

It's strong in my opinion not to do bad and excuse it with being amongst the majority(wow). But to be fair instead to those less fortunate by at least getting their problem right when incorporating it into whatever you make.

Then you can have all the negative thoughts about addicts that you want. But please respect them enough not to let the data that depicts them ingame make it seem like an impossible choice that no sane smart guy could ever go for. Because to me friendship, honesty and reliability greatly outsum any socially less accepted trait if that trait allows the former to withstand. I would have more fun if I weren't exasperated every once in a while about the names you give the different low end professions. They have the intellectual niveau of the redneck everybody talks about and that is demeaning.

Addicts are the witches of nowadays and of course there's plenty of absurd people wanting to see someone burn that actually do planned bad but choose not to admit it.

I don't know what I have to do not to get a verbal punch in the face for a serious request I have but if you are already typing some insult please refrain i don't want to fight anyone or put myself above anyone.

And by making the effects worse than they are you implicitly tell those people that nobody sane could ever be stupid enough to become addicted. That may be a nice childhood thought but if it were examined wouldn't hold to be true a bit. And that ignorance pains me because it does wrong people that earn your respect by being human, regardless of the choices they have made in their lives. The basic respect you get unless you killed or raped somebody. If anyone did anyone else massive harm they lose that basic respect. Not before. If that's done before it's typical of a developed bored society. And of personal misplaced hate.

The difference between addicts and the rest of the population is that they chose a drug that is limited. An object of addiction doesnt need to be a substance. Many people have addictions like judging unfairly, but those serve to distance them from positive experience in the long run too. Or women, or porn, or hurting people that don't fight back, seeming respectable.

PunkRock dude is a nice example of a neutral name. Speedy Gonzales would be an acceptable name for the tweaker. But tweaker is just morbid.

So again I love the game, I love the work that you do and I think we're not that much unlike each other so please give my suggestion some serious thought before you purge your mental trashfolder with the idea in it.

Lazyactor commented 5 years ago

no one cares.

alanbrady commented 5 years ago

The difference between addicts and the rest of the population is that they chose a drug that is limited.

Nope.

Addiction is characterized by inability to consistently abstain, impairment in behavioral control, craving, diminished recognition of significant problems with one’s behaviors and interpersonal relationships, and a dysfunctional emotional response.

https://www.asam.org/resources/definition-of-addiction

If you're really so offended by the names you're free to change them in your own json files, but your argument lacks merit, in my opinion.

If anything the game is pro-drug with the affects you get from them. Smoking a bunch of meth won't double your intelligence, yet in the game that's how it works. You don't want drugs to have realistic affects because it would ultimately mean nerfing them to kingdom come. You're also way off base if you think the game is personally persecuting you for your personal choices. I think you should take a step back and take a reality check.

On a final note, you've blown me away that you think 'tweaker' is offensive but 'speedy gonazales' is somehow appropriate.

cainiaowu commented 5 years ago

Wall of text and not following issue template. I doubt anyone would be interested in this.

goddessfreya commented 5 years ago

As @alanbrady said, if anything, this game is absurdly pro-drugs.

I'm not sure their exists a universe where "Speedy Gonzales" is more acceptable than tweaker. And, PunkRock dude hardly makes sense, unless they are a punk rock addict. (lol)

If we really want to aim for realism, meth probably shouldn't double intelligence. While we are at it, I think the best start is to cause 10% of all meth addicts in the game to die randomly (33% of which from suicide). (see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3117111/). I don't care if you think a 10% chance of randomly (granted, irl it's not random) dieing is unfair, I want to haz my R3al1sM.

I vote to close this issue.

EDIT:

Just imagine, you're randomly scavenging or something, then the screen fades to black and you get an inspirational message ~telling you to kill yourself~ telling you that your character killed themselves. I can already smell the rage and fury on the forums. When can we get this "feature"?

EDIT: 10% over ~17 years.

tsaber commented 5 years ago

Guys why do i need to be collectively insulted? Why do I need to be your enemy? How did I get in that position?

So you pick a sentence and get a quote and then the sentence is wrong? That's scientific as fuck. You could try to imagine what I meant. But you don't. What threat do I pose? I helped chestholiness with his tileset if you demand proof of commitment. I did 200 tiles maybe or less I dont remembe exactly? He did most of it of course! I'm not claiming anything. I never said I'm perfect I never said that my shit never permeates into my opinion but I'm not a dumb fuck either please and it would serve all I believe if we all tried to only have conflict when necessary and not for entertainment?

If this is to you like being molested and not input that could be interpreted objectively to see if there's a point somewhere in that pussy mess which you men so distinctively distanced yourself from I will find more rewarding things to do then letting you feast on me, zombos. I don't mean any of you any harm. I don't need power to feel good. I was just forced to study medicine and then went deep in psychiatry so maybe you could imagine my opinion had some kind of value to improve the already great work that is the game. I'm also a patient myself which is another angle on this. Just in Europe maybe people are just different in other countries and being human does not at all connect us somehow.

How is it in my interest as a non stop player these last months to challenge any of you? I'm not addicted to my self worth I'd just love to contribute in any way that I can. To be able to do that I need you not to want me to look like an idiot because I can't fight that and I don't have the energy to and dont need to get mad to feel like a man. I feel like you are shriekers, grabbers and acidpukers and the occasional spitter. It burns oh it burns so much and my ears. But Taichi Tanja will always win you see? Also the fox leads me to useful stuff. Or im a dumb liar stupid ass shit.

I can get angry but I can also admit it afterwards.

I may have insulted someone key to Cataclysm so I get the response. I wasn't myself when I wrote that jibberish to Kevin I admit it. Still there might have been a better way of settlling it instead of holding it in until then. I haven't been well yep. If that's a fixed state I need to get back to medschool.

So I don't know I just hope you can just tell me whats what instead of making me feel bad about my ideas because they don't hold true in all or many ways. I think it's not too hard to understand my point if you wanted to.. So yeah. I don't want to insult you I hope you can stop insulting me and I also hope I don't hiroshima gangbang bomb anyone into oblivion with this post. That choice of words in itself is totally too much. Yet if my formless regurgitation of bloody shit blows up minds I think it's the stuff that cataclysm can always use more of.

My point that was quoted against and thus blown out of existence was that you can be addicted to insulting people and that will be bad for your well being in the long run since you then readily accept violence in every day communication. Even if you are the target thereof. Or you as a rather attractive girl like to rip apart the egos of boys coming to talk to you for no reason but your fiendish malevolent pleasure that originates in a slightly twisted world view in which every man is your neglectful or sexually aroused daddy. That can be the more fateful addiction.And ignorant assholes like that girl deserve badthings happening to them moreso than the heroine addict that mostly or often whatever you think is the truth chooses to hurt only himself and is more a symptom of a sick society than the reason anyone's not happy with his life. But he will be used as such because he is the most powerless in almost any case. He will join other addicts and within their unit bad shit happens yes but the original plan to deal with the pain they couldn't deal with otherwise is in my eyes more noble than the less extreme but more selfish way of someone who abuses their social standing to get sadistic pleasure out of it by hurting people that are innocent.

Can you give me an inch on that? If not alright it's your game I'm sorry I dared to say something that could be attributed as critique or dominant taking over but that has never an will never be my intention. I have some ideas though and they despite my lack of believe in them sometimes turn out to be only a bit bad. or even a bit good.

I just wish you could if not for me in general find a way of criticising suggestions that isn't made to provoke and defeat and thus for personal pleasure of beating someone. If I'm your new scapegoat, then meh.

You know hecklers in comedy shows. They must be mega brave right?

Speedy Gonzales is a childs show about a mouse that is faster than any mouse I've ever seen. It defuses just by that fact. I like speedy gonzales. I might like the tweaky gonzales too although he might have a drug problem. A tweaker licks toilets in the underground. He is tweaking because he has no control about his consumption and constantly overdoses. He has no respectable reason to do what he does. Tweakers disgust or threaten you on the sidewalk. What a mess. Tweaker to me sounds a lot more demeaning than any parody through metaphor you could fill in to suggest what you mean. Maybe I'm a bitch and you know it? But are you certain? Hobo. Crackhead. chainsmoker, The hobo and the smoker get away with grazing hits. But the crackhead is dave chapelle shitting in the schools paperbin right? Also if I take Meth ingame I'd like to see the first bad results sooner than expected but not after the first consumption. That to me ridicules the whole thing. That might even lead people to believe that as long as they have all teeth meth is supercool. You can always argue against suggestions. I'd want to argue for them so you're certain you eventually make the best choice whatever htat may be.. You could lessen the int I dont say buff all drugs. I dont think I said that. But you could read that into it. True

Regilith commented 5 years ago

1) You're overreacting. People are allowed to have opinions about things, and bitching that the world doesn't align with whatever viewpoint you have is immature and pointless.

2) It's a free, open source, open contribution game. If you want to make a change, propose a change. I didn't see a single cohesive suggestion in your wall of text which would go towards fixing whatever wrong you perceive in the game. Describe the issue with a few sentences, propose a fix, and rationalize the suggestion.

3) No one here is insulting you, or is picking apart your argument, or thinks that you are in any way inferior. Such behavior is not tolerated in this repository. Nor is this a repo for long posts about perceived sleights within the game, stuff like this is better suited for discord, Reddit, the forums, etc.

4) I have a good friend who was an addict. He almost killed himself on heroin and medications. Whenever he was in withdrawal, he spoke with the same jumpy, incohesive style with which you're writing now. I'm sorry if you're dealing with the same demons that almost took my best friend away from me. Stay strong.

Soyweiser commented 5 years ago

@Regilith I think the initial 'nobody cares' remark def was insulting, and the high amount of positive emoticons on that also wasn't nice. (Rest of the comments seem fine to me). Even if I get the impulse to start with 'nobody cares' btw. It was a rambling incoherent initial post with no real clear point.

@tsaber I have no idea what you are trying to say tsaber. Please edit your posts down a bit is my suggestion. Really, read back what you typed and remove the irrelevant bits.

From what I can understand you object to the term "Tweaker' and want to replace it with "PunkRock dude" or "Speedy Gonzales". Well those names are super unclear. Punkrock doesn't have much to do with drugs (even if a lot of punks do use drugs) and speedy gonzales is just weird. And the term tweaker is only used in one specific profession which is intended as an addicted person who had the world collapse around him. So in this came the slur tweaker fits, and changing the name would make it all unclear and the game worse. It is not about a simple ADD medication user. And im sorry you feel personally attacked by this.

Also: I think the addiction and drug system ingame is not considered to be a representation of real life drug effects, yes some effects will mirror the real life effects, but not all of them. Feel free to make concrete suggestions as regilith said.

Lastly, if regilith is right and you are having a strange drug fueled (or lack of drugs fueled) moment, it might be better to reach out to your surroundings than post here.

Looking at a few of your other posts you made in the past, I'm going to suggest you do that regardless. Post like : #24731 #24762 #25158 are worrying, and you react to critical remarks like they are insults. Also your mental state seems to be getting worse as your rants are getting longer and longer.

Question, do you speak English natively? It could always be a language barrier problem.

Lazyactor commented 5 years ago

@Soyweiser There is nothing insulting about telling someone that no one cares about there emotional dribble. They wont like it of course. It's not nice. It's not polite but it isn't an insult. OP wall of text basically boils down to "Oh woe is me wont you change this thing cause I am special and dont like it." Every feature of the game is based on fun and realism. Any idiot with half a brain can see that. OP wants attention an to change features based on perceived insult. Name a single feature of CDDA that was implemented based on perceived insult? There isn't one. I dont see any reason to start now. But lets be real here. OP's intent was not to change a feature of the game it was to get attention. I mean did you read his OP? It's nearly nonsensical. any who im sorry if my comment stretched it a bit but i stand by it.

Soyweiser commented 5 years ago

Name a single feature of CDDA that was implemented based on perceived insult?

C:DDA has always tried to not insult people. It is the reason behind several changes, and why others have been refused.

And on the rest, I disagree with you, but I don't think this is relevant for the project at all (and as such, im not going to discuss it). Just be nice.

kevingranade commented 5 years ago

But please respect them enough not to let the data that depicts them ingame make it seem like an impossible choice that no sane smart guy could ever go for.

That's reality, addicts convince themselves and others that these drugs are providing some benefit, but except in some outlying cases like medicinal effects of cannabis, those benefits are non-existent, and belief in them is part of the pathology of addiction. This is not a lack of respect, it is an acknowledgement of reality. It is not respect to tell an addict that the use of their drug of choice is not harming them.

Regarding the game, no one has gone out of their way to make hard drugs in game more of a negative choice than they are in reality, it is exactly the opposite, they have large numbers of entirely fictitious positive effects, and the negative effects are mostly minimised. Addiction onset time is greatly accelerated, but AFAIK that is the only artificially negative effect, and it doesnt cone close to outweighing the artificially positive effects.

As for the term tweaker being used by the game, any term for a meth addict, including the bare descriptive phrase "meth addict" is going to have the same connotations unless you go the extreme of making up jocular terms for it.

tl;dr Meth is bad, being addicted to meth is bad, were not going to pretend otherwise.

tsaber commented 5 years ago

@LadyUncle It is painfully obvious how purposely insulting you little mindgamemegamen are based on the agitated extremes you use in your panicked defense once being accused of what you actually do. Your scrambling half-insulting defenses against an older wiser member of your community are pitiful. You should respect him because you want to, not because you feel like you have to.

I believe you're traumatized like me but you built a reality that excludes remission. And hence when meeting others build your own reality in which your "as hard as possible" guerilla behavior feels normal. Humans always act the same. They aren't playing many roles. They mostly like to think that but they fail to see the substitutes they pick and how obvious they are.

But when your picture of the world involves disrespect on a daily basis your picture is tainted because most people wan't happiness for each other since it exponates then like the best meth you've ever taken. Whatever you do or imagine the perfect power state to be is bullshit as a feeling compared to natures highest reward for doing your job. Being human, helpful, loving, forgiving, friendly .. If you create circumstance in which another can grow as he'd like to nature rewards you, but only if you do it with the right intentions. Your own brain rates your behavior. But the structure who does is so much older than the thinking meMEMEMEMEMEME part that you can't fool it. It sees things as they are and you do service to yourself if you stop and start understanding who you are without the horsethings you made pretty big already.

But it isn't normal. You treat others and thus yourself with no regard or kindness and no respect for being human (you never felt what that means otherwise you wouldn't edge it so much) and that's why you take it out on people who still give a damn about anything. Or do so again.

You fail to perceive that most of these people see your problems from afar based on the hostile way you prevent yourself. You fail to perceive that. Which makes your little shitshop here on github a textbook example of mental illness that its weak sufferers just chose to project on something outside.

If you must defend your family until the bitter end do so. But you could also admit what fucking unhappy jerks they are and split. But that hurts at first and I know you people, that gangrape newcomers that have suggestions anonymously on github(groupaccounts are absurd boys) and think those people were as weak as you are.

You are massively scared of pain as your youth has made you. You fail to see you're still stuck with the fear and horrors of back then when you see the world through these shitty glasses. You fail to see that it's only you suffering.

We know that jerks are going to shit on our ideas massively because they have no ideas anymore and no balls to show them if they had. We developed ways to deal with your hateful little remarks or setups that leaves us free of any pain you imagine we have in a manner of minutes to a day. If someone truly fucked up can fool us into feeling bad it takes a bit longer. But we recover easily from little hategangbangs that are so absurdly set up to make your little unbearable pain of living better for a bit. Your problem solving capabilities are so fucking bad that you turned to spreading hatred on the internet ruining a game that a great guy made. You're super weak for going 6-10 vs 1 so you think you have no chance of losing.

Every woman sees your fortresses and doesnt think "oh what a sturdy knight" but "oh what a scared person, i wonder if he realizes that everybody sees he's scared based on his angry demeanor and his massive fucking castle that he left without bridges to reach"

What you do here is the opposite of pussy. And I'll happily leave you to it. Especially the big wyrm that isn't addicted to anything. It's his genes you know. Addicts know how full of shit you are though. You could at any minute be judged as harshly so you are a hippocrit and a hateful weakling for just imagining you didn't have the very same problems you demean others for in your tainted terran version of cataclysm where people don't get how much growth you actually prevent.

I know he will delete this before screaming like a toddler in his yard falling on his knee whilst trying to kick the elitarian trashbin made of plastic on his balcony.

You act grown-up. You all try to. But it's not working. That's why you are alone. Stop the bullshit, accept your fate, rise through acceptance, do what you have to do and stop hiding with a biooperator who whilst 2 shotting you is trying to tell you it's worth the effort. It isn't. because the people that maintain it have lost their fun and will to live and hate those they see who still have it. So no good feeling can come out of this. Since those people tend to bend reality like no other to make themselves look good in the absence of any feelings.

You obviously only want to make other people miserable so you deserve what sorry excuses of lives that you are experiencing right now. Until you find yourself. But you'd have to question a lot of things you're too lazy to question so you stay here. Youre chances are bad statistically. Cluster A and B if you want to look it up. Only within those you have these kinds of communities where one larva feeds on a colony of blind insects that don't see theres a massive larva sucking away all benefit of their hard work. Because when intelligence meets horror people can come to existence that are in what they actually do chameleons and bloodsuckers. They are like Joker in Batman. They do exist otherwise you wouldn't see them in the cinema. Just metaphorical you have to see it.

You see with good people their excrement is the least good thing they implement. You are perfectly aware of what you are doing, like your parents when they fucked you up by doing it. And no sane person is buying your self-absorbed bullshit on how you are actually the victims here. You can manipulate the narrative but it doesn't hold long outside your hateful github posts when people just think about what happened.

You started being mean and abusive for no reason. You think you have one but you don't.

There never is a reason to be aggressive. Except when you live in constant fear. Then you attack anything. And you little cubbies still do. There never is a justification to hurt another human. If that being already lost moral dimensions of human I don't call them human anymore and hence it's also right and necessary to hurt beings like that in defense. Because you show them by first going through the pains they put you and not fighting back how pitiful they are. They hate that shit. They run around in rage at home when you do that. And they hope nobody knows.

The world is good, you live in a shitworld. In that world being yourself is wrong, being honest about what happened and also having an opinion about what happened to you is wrong. Because that doesn't serve the tyrant you idiots. The tyrant needs you to shut up wit hyour whiny bs so your attention can go back where it belongs. The massive gravitational black whole of this miniature universe.

You operate ignoring the heavy truck at the top complaining about how hard life and dda is. Of course have you considered the weight you have to carry? Why do you seek situations in which you are being taken advantage of?

I ahvent seen many helpful or rather non-exclusive contributions on kevins end. He just burps out one anti mod after another to put himself above whatever isn't his.

You cannot get anywhere here since your boss needs to be above you to function at all. He won't include you because he excluded so many. No he will just camp on the next good thing that someone has that he couldn't try to abort in time. And many of you will think like him otherwise you wouldn't be here. Some are here to take his price. But it's no price. Only were you so massively abused by your progenitors that a happy life in your eyes is still a very bad world in reality. Your ptsd just makes it hard to see what's real and what isn't. And the permanent massive fear that you are unable to experience consistently make it hard for you to escape these shackles of perception. Why are scared people so fucked? because they will be influenced constantly by that fear without realizing even if they know. They make bad decisions as professionals that have negative consequences for their customers.

I thought along the same lines once. That's why I return here. But you are the end of the line. Here nothing good happens. I healed myself from all the pseudo-elitarian distance my family had tought me to have. It is an illusion we give ourselves in times when we are unable to cope with what is actually happening to us. And you as boys were fucked one way or the other to such a degree you still suffer from it every day. So when someone with actual feelings writes about them it hurts you so much that you get angry in lack of explanation of such bad feelings.

And that my friends, is your PTSD. Kevin is so far past he thinks he is a perfect image of a man despite being addicted to the most common things men get addicted to, consumption of legal drugs and themselves. You're pathetic dude. Your worst fear has become true because you hurt others instead of facing it. By doing that you've become truly abhorrent and that's when people call someone a monster. The stories are about orc gruntish overlords like you Kevin. Fantasy is about life after all and they don't only exist where you boys can clearly identify them by designation of a grown up.

All the excitement you lack in your lives is right around the corner. You just have the tendency to join shitty communities with all devouring orang utans at the top. So you always get the bad ending. You even help it so you have some explanation to why you feel so horrible every day.

He is another caliber lets say. He is so dead inside he gets activated by bad. He is in fact already dead. This is is undead husk that can think like a two year old and haunts the world. He does not want to see everything grow. He wants to have the power to take everything while everything else shall just dry out and die. That's how he considers anything else truly that isn't him.

Kavin wouldn't allow it unless his monklike self-head can be put on the very top of it. That is a general statement and if you watch you will see that it holds true. If he cant deny the validity of anything he will make sure that you see him acting like he was core to developing the idea. His figure, again Im sorry I have to use it, is prove that he is not so monklike as he perceives himself though.

Kevin, you are amongst the most addicted people here. So it is to be expected that you would have the most vile comments about them. You need to be seen, you need attention, and you need superiority. You are addicted to the feeling that here you can make it seem like whatever you say is the reasonable thing, even when it's guttertalk, which it mostly is. Acting smart and defending yourself against threats that aren't real. That's how well you are. Whenever you create those situations of lack of respect to be the one who "wins" you lose a bit of your humanity and you only started because you saw no other way, which is the reality you were presented at the time.

YOU COULD NEVER KNOW.. YES I COULD. because you aren't half as good intellectually when you are spiteful compared to when you live to be a good person. To create communities, to build something. So you traumatized always do the same things that are common to your disorder. Because that many people have shitty childhoods making it unable for them to escape their fates. Criminals too.

Kevin just saw the attention-heroin when he stole the game and as you can see he's tapping it at whatever opportunity that he is given and it's dying out slowly.

Furthermore your picture shows that you hope to gain in your reallife by putting your massive head on top of this project that you kinda stole in which you prevent any significant growth based on your personality disorder and its childish need for being the best at all times.

Yet you'd have to do some painful work to get out of this mess before any nice person could even reach you in a conversation. Because you build your heavydutyplating so thickly emotionally not to get hurt that you don't experience the good in day to day contact anymore.

addicted to food is very arrogant in his self-proclaimed rightness about everything and likes to judge addicts harshly.. It must be because he is in such dire need of someone who treats him lovingly that he even gos so low to hate on the weakest part of society. His behavior does show signs of addiction. Addicted to making himself believe he is superior to the things he encounters in his kingdom.

Whatever your parents did was the worst. You carry it proudly and try to fight the whole world before you ever accept the pain of being an orphan. Because pain is bad right?

He, in between burgers, will not even make the effort of seeming like he was a good person when he writes his usual 2 lines in which he perceives (because he must) he just washes it all away.

It's bullshit though and every woman with self-respect knows, every man too. You think we'd laugh about you but you leave us no other choice given the persumptious lack of manners that you present when once in a while you had the chance to be part of a group but you fucked it up by being a massive (ha) jerk again. You earn the fedora like any other.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you just make the game so hard so you seem even harder as the ones who are playing it. YOu make this game another fake medal about how tough you are. Don't you see how stupid this has become??

Anyways my belief is reinforced. This game isn't fun. It's kevins shitty life. And I don't want to play anything ever again that serves mainly the neverending hunger of one sorry individual and his apprentices.

Soyweiser commented 5 years ago

Euh, get some professional help, no idea what is going on with you but posting stuff like this isn't healthy. You need help. I'm not saying this to be insulting, it is just that this rant you just posted makes no sense, comes out of nowhere, and is a total overreaction to ... something. It is some sort of drug fueled or schizophrenic break with reality. Get some help, really. Call some friends, go to a medical professional or something.

Also enjoy your ban.

tsaber commented 5 years ago

it isn't it's a summary of what your community is if you think it's mental so be it for the sake of the argument I'd like for you not to be censoring. We are all grown-up enough not to need your censorship aren't we? If you delete my message it's proof that it's relevant. And if you then are abusive despite finding it "dangerous" enough it's hypocritical. Careful!

You need help for being here when you have the slightest understanding about what manners are and what they are not.

But joining in with the majority once you defending me could take on more significance than you had imagined it could ever take on.

It is noted that you too distanced yourself from my ideas to please the great Dragon. Why do you project your fear onto him? He isn't scary.

He just exists to push your buttons and then in that, he's good.

tsaber commented 5 years ago

and banning me when I have self-respect not to waste my time in bad places that serve to enlargen the ego reservoir of just one seems useless. You dont want anyone to contribute good things, then let it fester. Im done. Accepting your way of relating to the world would be admission of insanity to me. And because I understood that I got over my past. And if any of you tough survivalists want to escape your world you might want to choose to not imperatively disregard my input before you even understand what it's supposed to mean. But youve never known to follow that advice in your lives otherwise you wouldnt be wasting the prime years of it on this sinking ship.

tsaber commented 5 years ago

Until then, my lovely undead survivalist pirates

Soyweiser commented 5 years ago

You are making no sense. Your fantasy about how stuff works isn't how stuff works. Get help.

ZhilkinSerg commented 5 years ago

Drugs are bad and you just confirmed that.