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Talon UGV shoots for full damage through reinforced doors #36669

Closed glenmack closed 4 years ago

glenmack commented 4 years ago

Describe the bug

Talon UGV shoots for full damage through reinforced doors

Expected behavior

Reinforced glass doors should be stopping most of the damage, as per reinforced glass.

TechyBen commented 4 years ago

Is reinforced glass that strong? Though having it able to deflect 1 bullet, but then be rather flimsy after seems more akin to real life (IIRC reinforced glass can be made rather thick and well protected, but been a while since I've been on that specific Mythbusters binge XD ).

Warriorcat49 commented 4 years ago

Is reinforced glass that strong? Though having it able to deflect 1 bullet, but then be rather flimsy after seems more akin to real life (IIRC reinforced glass can be made rather thick and well protected, but been a while since I've been on that specific Mythbusters binge XD ).

Depending on what we mean by reinforced glass, there are many different types which can and will stop multiple rifle bullets. In-game though, it's supposed to halve damage I think, and two tiles of reinforced glass will completely stop up to 5.56, possibly more; I haven't actually tested with higher.

scorpion451 commented 4 years ago

Wikipedia actually has pretty good numbers for real-world bullet-proof glass (and "glass"): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_glass

Based on how many hits from a sledgehammer it can take, the stuff in the labs is probably toward the bottom of the list, where you go from how many shots it can stop and start looking at how big of an anti-materiel round it can stop.

glenmack commented 4 years ago

Is reinforced glass that strong? Though having it able to deflect 1 bullet, but then be rather flimsy after seems more akin to real life (IIRC reinforced glass can be made rather thick and well protected, but been a while since I've been on that specific Mythbusters binge XD ).

I have since observed that it works both ways. I can shoot a talon, or any other monster through the reinforced door, as well. Tactically it's less interesting than having to open a door, and yes, "bullet resistant glass" should be cutting at least half the damage if not all.

Realism aside. The glass needs to stop some or all bullet damage. No one puts live-fire robots and turrets inside a scientific or military research facility. They never will. So if you're going to cut bullet resistant glass in labs for "realism" take out the live fire defences in labs too.

molkero commented 4 years ago

Shouldn't the glass at least break when shot through?

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