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Cataclysm - Dark Days Ahead. A turn-based survival game set in a post-apocalyptic world.
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Add non-electric soldering iron #48391

Open Igryn opened 3 years ago

Igryn commented 3 years ago

Add non-electric soldering iron operating of an external source of heat

Describe alternatives you've considered

Leaving it as is

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Saicchi commented 3 years ago

How is it made? What are the materials? How hard it is to craft? Any videos or websites showing people using and/or creating one? Is this just a gimmick?

Igryn commented 3 years ago

How is it made? What are the materials? How hard it is to craft? Any videos or websites showing people using and/or creating one? Is this just a gimmick?

Primarily used for braising metal pipes and metal containers in order to avoid leaking. Could be used to perform some basic crude electronic soldering. Kind of middle point between acetylene torch and regular elecric soldering iron

matt32106 commented 3 years ago

Does that mean I could use a copper tube, hammer it a bit and just add something to make the handle (a piece of wood or leather) and voila?

actual-nh commented 3 years ago

Does that mean I could use a copper tube, hammer it a bit and just add something to make the handle (a piece of wood or leather) and voila?

I'd think you would need a chunk of material near the tip to retain heat long enough. (Wrapping behind the tip with something with a high heat capacity - provided it isn't flammable and has a high melting point! - could work. Cast iron works in some ways, but would be rather heavy.)

robotic-gamer commented 3 years ago

I actually made something similar in my mod (simple additions). my version included an oil lamp and used that as the heat source using lamp oil.

edit: link https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/simple-additions-mod/25892/9

kasanryukin commented 3 years ago

The soldering iron shown in the original post is actually an extremely old design. Similar shaped copper 'irons' were found in ancient Egyptian dig sites with evidence they were used to solder gold. Nearly a thousand years later similar artifacts from excavations around Turkey showed some of the earliest uses of tin as a soldering material by the ancient Greeks and Romans for connecting pipes. In modern days, they are used by pipe fitters to braze connections from the inside when flow isn't an issue and are made from pure copper heads attached to an iron rod and a wooden handle.

The issue with adding in this as an option is you can't use it in situations you'd want to replace a regular soldering iron. It just isn't feasible when an acetylene torch can have a flame so small you can solder electronics with it. They don't miniaturize well because of the thermal properties of copper. These days you'd just use a soldering iron than ran on butane if you couldn't use an electric iron.

Adding an iron that ran on butane on the other hand would be a good alternative now that fuels are delineated.

LohTek commented 3 years ago

Why would you use a butane torch to heat this thing? It's just a hunk of metal on a rod. Stick it in a fire, that would get it hot enough to solder with.

kasanryukin commented 3 years ago

You wouldn't, you'd ad an actual butane soldering iron which a quick google would have shown you something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Weller-P2C-Butane-Soldering-Iron/dp/B000B61L0G

Shodan14 commented 2 years ago

You wouldn't, you'd ad an actual butane soldering iron which a quick google would have shown you something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Weller-P2C-Butane-Soldering-Iron/dp/B000B61L0G

Why not both?