[ Feature Request ] PC knocked unconscious and captured

Maleclypse commented 2 years ago

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.

Since we now have the ability to move player control to NPC followers upon death and the ability to move NPCs locations and gear, plus having Unique IDs for NPCs I think we are pretty close to being able to simulate instances when the PC is knocked unconscious and captured by either other NPCs, mi-go and any other instances where that would be appropriate.

Solution you would like.

I would like for Mi-go to sometimes capture characters that they knock to zero hp and for those unique characters to be moved to empty mi-go prison cells somewhere on the overmap. This would enable followers who weren't nearby to launch rescue missions.

Describe alternatives you have considered.

Same world multiple chargen scenarios such as if an early PC is captured and the world isn't reset the new character in the world might encounter and rescue the PC.

Additional context

No response

Inglonias commented 2 years ago

Any feature that involves a PC interacting with another PC in the same world is going to be iffy at best, and I don't think it's worth the trouble.

Golfavel commented 2 years ago

Well, we could still "kill" the PC, where they still become unplayable and a new/different character is required, but clone the statistics of them and place this clone now-NPC into imprisonment for another character to rescue.

Maleclypse commented 2 years ago

Any feature that involves a PC interacting with another PC in the same world is going to be iffy at best, and I don't think it's worth the trouble.

Have you missed that you can already swap between NPCs thus making each of them PCs?

edit: or are you referring to the same world different character generation possibility. That really should be listed under alternatives because it is different from the main suggestion. Thanks!

Inglonias commented 2 years ago

I think you're right. We're converting PCs to NPCs all the time now, aren't we?

DamienRoyan commented 2 years ago

Any feature that involves a PC interacting with another PC in the same world is going to be iffy at best, and I don't think it's worth the trouble.

Have you missed that you can already swap between NPCs thus making each of them PCs?

Do you mean switching on death, or can we now do it whenever now?

Maleclypse commented 2 years ago

Do you mean switching on death, or can we now do it whenever now?

We can switch on death and by debug, currently. Some long term plans have been discussed as encouraging it for various faction camp missions and the like. I expect that it is a feature that will get more use in the next experimental cycle.

fairyarmadillo commented 2 years ago

A few awesome ways this could be used:

Mi-Go could kidnap people, either for experiments or to process them into resin. There might be a time limit to rescue your kidnapped character, and maybe some way to track the mi-go back to their base?
Raiders could kidnap people and hold them for ransom, make them do slave labor, or even try to force them to join, which could turn them hostile if you take too long and your faction's morale was low.
XEDRA remnants could kidnap people for experiments, trying to find a cure. Drag your feet too long and your buddy might have a bunch of mutations by the time you get there.
An evolved form of dermatiks could kidnap people and drag them to their lair to host a bunch of eggs, either paralyzed and barely alive or gummed up in a mud cocoon like in Aliens.
Triffids seem like assholes. Maybe they want to kidnap people and stick them in giant pitcher plants?
If a giant appendage (portal storm enemy) beats you in a fight, it drags you into the nether. A portal stays behind for a couple hours that would allow a rescuer with proper gear and a lot of skill to follow the person out there and bring them back. Bonus points if the victim has kaluptic psychosis or something when they return.
Police Bots that actually arrest you and take you to jail. Hopefully genpop isn't filled with zombies.
It'd be pretty funny if the Old Guard got mad at the player for snooping around in too many top secret labs and started sending power armor jerks or local mercenaries to extradite them back to some offshore black site for interrogation and indefinite detention. There's room there for so many mechanics, too. Covering your identity on lab raids, paying off the old guard rep, working for them and getting proper clearance, killing so many of their hunters that they back off.
Any of the above as a possible consequence for failing a skill check during a faction camp mission, which would be a lot more exciting than your buddy just dying offscreen.

Obviously some of these require a lot more infrastructure than just a simple kidnapping mechanic, but this'd be an awesome first step.

NetSysFire commented 2 years ago

Surprised there were no mentions of spiders yet.

possible consequence for failing a skill check during a faction camp mission

Absolutely, but it depends on the faction. I do not think the refugee center folks would imprison a character and there need to be alternatives defined, e.g stripping character of weapons and abandoning them at the perimeter in this case.

Leonkoithara commented 1 year ago

How should we deal with how the NPCs become aware of the PC'c capture and subsequent rescue operation?

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