Greek/Phoenician Fire

[PGR-14]

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Well, Rubik & co. were in a medieval dimension before this, & w/ cataphract armor, it seems like they were in kind of a pseudo Greek area (W/ the metal being made of Thessalonian bronze), so wouldn't it make sense for them to have Phoenician fire?

Solution you would like.

Add it, maybe a better version of the Molotov cocktail? Or as a better flamethrower fuel.

Describe alternatives you have considered.

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[natsirt721]

Problem is nobody really knows what greek fire is made from. A quick google suggests a mixture of crude oil and pine tar, but there are other plausible ingredients such as quicklime, sulfur, saltpeter, and animal fat. According to wiki:

Most modern scholars agree that Greek fire was based on either crude or refined petroleum, comparable to modern napalm.

Resins were probably added as a thickener (the Praecepta Militaria refer to the substance as πῦρ κολλητικόν, "sticky fire"), and to increase the duration and intensity of the flame.

So we're looking at something akin to a medieval Molotov, but more sticky. I would imagine that it would be worse than a firebomb made from modern petroleum distillates or alcohols due to the presence of impurities, and definitely worse than modern napalm. It would probably have a smaller splash radius per unit volume as compared to a Molotov as well due to the presence of the resin thickener. It certainly wouldn't be appropriate for use with a modern flamethrower, although the "Methods of deployment" section includes references to ship-mounted and man-portable flamethrower-esque weapons in addition to handheld grenades.

Finally, while pine resin is certainly common enough, it looks like the only place you can find crude oil in game is on an oil platform, so YMMV on how useful this actually is.

[PGR-14]

Eh, fair enough, but it would be interesting for the Exodii to have some throwables, & you know how useful fire is to zombies, so they'd probably bring some along just in case. For the recipe, we could substitute it w/ diesel or motor oil.

[natsirt721]

For the recipe, we could substitute it w/ diesel or motor oil.

Maybe a 'sticky incendiary bomb' that uses less accelerant but with other additives for improved adhesion? Wiki for 'molotov cocktail' suggests that:

Thickening agents, such as solvents, extruded polystyrene (XPS) foam (known colloquially as styrofoam, baking soda, petroleum jelly, tar, strips of tyre tubing, nitrocellulose, motor oil, rubber cement, detergent, and dish soap, have been added to promote adhesion of the burning liquid and to create clouds of thick, choking smoke.

I'm not sure how the effect in-game would vary from your standard molotov though.

[PGR-14]

Well, the regular molotov has recently been changed so that the flames produced from it are smaller, so we could have this one have bigger flames (Not in radius though).

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