renew LastPass account subscription

[davidchambers]

@mookerji just forwarded me an email from LastPass. Our account will expire in 31 days. Presumably we should renew our subscription before then. Do we have a bank account for such things?

[davidchambers]

Also, we should update the email address associated with the account to info@clojurebridge.org.

[yokolet]

Yes, we should update the subscription. The last time, @mookerji https://github.com/mookerji and Chris worked on the payment. I think Chris remembers how to pay?

As for email address, I'm not sure where to set. I see David's name and email in the primary business contact section. Did you, David, get the notification email of the payment? At least, I did since I'm an administrator.

Best,

• Yoko

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[davidchambers]

I think Chris remembers how to pay?

Okay. I will assign this issue to Chris.

As for email address, I'm not sure where to set.

How about info@clojurebridge.org? That way messages will be sent to every board member rather than just one of us.

I see David's name and email in the primary business contact section. Did you, David, get the notification email of the payment?

Buro updated the email address yesterday after contacting me.

[crkoehnen]

I'll take care of the renewal. I also received the email notification.

[crkoehnen]

LastPass Enterprise Licenses for Clojurebridge

Total Valid Licenses: 7 Number of Licenses In-Use: 6 Number of Licenses Available: 1 Number of Users In Your Company: 6 Expiration: Monday, August 14, 2017 (3 weeks) : ABOUT TO EXPIRE

Number of Licenses: 7 Sub-Total: 117.60 (USD, before sales tax)

[crkoehnen]

According to the dashboard, it looks like we aren't using it very heavily. Peak usage was July 2016 when it was used twice.

Are we really using it?

Should we renew or cancel?

[davidchambers]

I don't have access to LastPass (I don't know my master password) but this hasn't been a problem for me. Which sites require the use of a shared password stored in LastPass?

Should we renew or cancel?

Cancelling the subscription would have no effect on me. @vsmart? @yokolet?

[vsmart]

I think we should renew it if we have the money/funds to do so. I'm not aware of any other easy solution to share passwords securely across a group of people.

[crkoehnen]

@vsmart, it's an easy solution for sharing passwords but are we really doing that? It looks like the peak usage was twice one month last year.

There is money in the general fund to cover it but there's also the opportunity cost. That money could go stickers or something for an event.

[davidchambers]

Which sites require the use of a shared password stored in LastPass?

Could you answer this, @crkoehnen? I don't have access.

[mookerji]

I believe there are exactly three logins, the clj-bridge Twitter account, info@clojurebridge.org (Gmail), and Trello.

[davidchambers]

We can get a 30% discount on our LastPass subscription.

Please send us your organization's government-approved non-profit form for evaluation. If applicable, please ensure that the form is addressed to GetGo, Inc., not LogMeIn, Inc.

@crkoehnen, can you provide me with such a form? I will then continue the process.

[vsmart]

@davidchambers I just had the thought that we could also downgrade to use one normal LastpassAccount rather than a team account. Those are free on the basic plan. And there is only one master pw we'd need to distribute (and we can rotate pws when people leave).

[davidchambers]

I like this idea, Franka. A 100% discount beats a 30% discount. :)

What do you think, @crkoehnen? What do you think, @yokolet?

[crkoehnen]

It sounds like: 2 votes for downgrading to a free, normal, non-team account. 1 vote for letting lastpass go.

If there are no objections, tomorrow I'll downgrade it.

[yokolet]

Sorry for the last minute response. After using LastPass for a year (or two?), I found LastPass is not so nice sharing tool among us. In my view, Passpack is a better option. ClojureBridge doesn't need to pay it. But, people may need to pay themselves depending on how heavily using/sharing on Passpack. Even though payment is required, it will be $5 or so per a year.

I'm not sure about how "downgrading to a free, normal, non-team account" works. It may or may not be a good choice.

[crkoehnen]

@yokolet , just in the nick of time. :)

What do you dislike about LastPass?

What do you like about Passpack?

[crkoehnen]

There doesn't seem to be a way of downgrading to a non-team account.

I was planning to set up a new account, add twitter, google, and trello, then retire the enterprise account. Unfortunately, while there's an option to see the passwords, I get a permission denied error. I don't actually know what those passwords are. I think I can use LastPass to go into twitter, google, and trello and change their passwords, then set up a new LastPass account. I'll admit, I'm a little twitchy about it since I don't want to lock the accounts.

If somebody knows those passwords, we could set up with a new LastPass account before breaking the current account.

[crkoehnen]

It expires in 23 hours. I'm sorry it was on my desk so long, but at this point, I'm tempted to say let's just renew it and sort out what we want for next year.

[yokolet]

@crkoehnen :) I don't like LastPass' not nice management tool. It's hard to understand. I mistakenly made Anna's personal account disabled. It's my bad, however, UI and documents are hard to figure out. Also, not all members have used frequently because of its confusing way of accessing passwords/setup, I guess.

Passpack is very clear, simple to use. It doesn't have an app or browser plugin. So, every time people need to login at the website and type two kinds of passwords. But, sharing a password is easy. Also, using a shared password is easy as well. In our case, we don't need a group. Just sharing each password individually would work.

[yokolet]

@crkoehnen We need trello and twitter only for now. "info@clojurebridge.org" is not an account anymore. All emails are forwarded to all board members' name@clojurebridge.org address. Each member has his/her own password to access the email.

[crkoehnen]

@yokolet , I do find the LastPass UI confusing.

That's good that google is out of the way.

We were talking about moving away from trello if github works well.

@yokolet, do you know the trello and twitter passwords? If so, want to try sharing them via Passpack? I created an account. (crkoehnen)

[crkoehnen]

@yokolet , it looks like if we went with Passpack as individuals, one individual would "own" the password and share it with the others? Am i reading that right?

Or would we need the "group plan", $48/year, which would allow 15 shared users and 25 groups?

[yokolet]

@crkoehnen that's correct. Someone will own it if we choose a cheapest way. The group plan may be an ideal one. The point is, for us, $48/year costs much or not. LastPass plan is less?

[yokolet]

Oh, I see. $117 for LastPass. Apparently, passpack is a good choice.

I have saved twitter and trello passwords to my personal passpack account. Don't worry even though LastPass enterprise is expired. If we go with LastPass, let's discuss later about this topic.

[crkoehnen]

@yokolet, if you have the passwords, then I won't worry about it for tonight. :)

[davidchambers]

In summary, the only shared passwords are for Trello and Twitter, and since Yoko has both of these passwords stored securely we will not renew our LastPass subscription.

I'll close this issue, as no further action is required.

[mookerji]

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