freghar
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3 years ago Honestly, ACE_30Rnd_556x45_Stanag_M995_AP_mag might seem OP on paper, but they aren't really that much better, so I'd propose:
ACE_30Rnd_556x45_Stanag_M995_AP_magas a replacement forrhs_mag_30Rnd_556x45_M855A1_Stanag- the ACE mags have weight 8 instead of 9.35, so they'll also be lighter, meaning no overweight issues
30Rnd_556x45_Stanag_Tracer_Redas a replacement forrhs_mag_30Rnd_556x45_M855A1_Stanag_Tracer_Red- same with weight 8 vs 9.35, .. plus a little bit better than the
rhs_mag_
- same with weight 8 vs 9.35, .. plus a little bit better than the
The only disadvantage is that you'd have to use these for both US and TFN, losing the STANAG vs PMAG variety.
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JamesTheClarke
I was playing with different types of magazines and, generally, our ineffectiveness against infantry armor, and @JamesTheClarke mentioned something about maybe wanting to have 5.56x45mm close to how 5.45x39mm hits (for balance reasons?), so here I've compiled a list of some interesting 5.56mm magazine/ammo options we could switch to for TFN/US to make them more effective (if such thing is wanted).
Note that even with #141 and proper Headless Client transfer, it still takes 4-5 direct chest shots @ 100m to kill a typical MSV RHS Russian soldier. With our current ammo.
The values below are from a magazine config and its related ammo (bullet) config and together form a "damage" approximation.
massis how much space a magazine takes up in inventoryinitSpeedis the initial velocity a bullet leaves the muzzle (further modified by muzzle accessories, weapon barrel, etc.)typicalSpeedsets the scaling of thehitvalue (below), eg. the soldier takeshitdamage from a bullet travelling attypicalSpeedairFrictionis how fast a bullet loses its speed as it travelscaliberis bullet penetration multiplier,caliber * speed * material_penetrability / 1000is how many millimeters it burrows (theoretically), AFAIKhitis a straight damage to (reduction of) the soldier hitpoints, more hit = more damage = more deadLet's start with what we already have.
The TFN faction uses:
US has the same thing in a different visual package:
RU have lighter mags with bigger caliber and notably more damage, at a slight speed loss. Interestingly, while 5.56mm tracer ammo has no change to damage, 5.45mm AK tracer ammo seems close to useless.
Needless to say, the non-tracer variant seems pretty OP considering that it's both a smaller and shorter caliber. My suspicion is that RHS just re-used the 7.62x39mm values.
Now let's look at some alternatives to the 5.56mm we use, starting with HLC (NIArms):
The EPR rounds look good (actually better than 5.45x39mm), but the magazines are rather heavy and the high speed would actually decrease the
hitdamage transferred (due to how the simulation works).Let's look at vanilla:
Not something to write home about, but a definite penetration improvement over what we have, not to mention lighter.
ACE3 has its own vanilla modifications:
If we were to choose between vanilla and ACE, the ACE Mk318 is probably better due to the slightly higher speed. The high caliber of M995_AP would easily pierce most vests, and - in a round about way - could compensate for the difference to 5.45x39mm even with a lower
hitvalue (which will be even below9, because it's9@ 920m/s, whileinitSpeedis 875 already).Looking at magazine options in RHS, they aren't great - everything has too small caliber to be truly effective against RU vests.
But if we were to choose, Mk318 or Mk262 are still in a different league from the rest of RHS 5.56mm mags.
Finally, we could create our own custom magazines/ammo, or mod any of these, but I'd consider that a last-ditch effort as it would only add to the maintenance burden and potentially open doors to more and more overhead (modding vests, uniforms, RPGs, magazine weight, like I used to do before).
The far easier solution is to just choose something better from the above, and do a string replace in a composition
.sqe. If the chosen option is heavier, then double-checking for overloaded units should be done.Anyway, I just provide the data, the decision is up to you.
If I was to make a recommendation, I'd go for
ACE_30Rnd_556x45_Stanag_Mk318_mag+30Rnd_556x45_Stanag_Tracer_Redhlc_30rnd_556x45_EPR+hlc_30rnd_556x45_tand adjust mag amounts to prevent inventory overload