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DoD & gov workers - let's discuss at 3pm ET today #64

Closed BrandonBouier closed 7 years ago

BrandonBouier commented 7 years ago

There has been a good discussion about our code.mil experiment. For those of you who are government and/or DoD employees, we'd like to host a Google Hangout call today at 3pm ET. Please send your government email to code@dds.mil mentioning your GitHub username & we'll send an invite to that address. We also plan to have a discussion open to the public in the future. I'll post details in a future post.

Any non-governmental email address that comes in will be added to the list for public discussion.

andrewgdunn commented 7 years ago

Give a 72 hour warning, not 6. Push to Wednesday or Thursday so people can actually notice this.

Edit: I'm actually quite frustrated by this method of 'reaching out'. I'm not sure what your office is chartered with, but there are plenty of organizations where people are working towards openness as a secondary objective to achieving actually research goals.

The audacity to expect that people will see and be able to respond to this under such a short suspense indicates that this repository/initiative may be your primary and sole objective. Realize that there are others, notably discussed in #8, that have made significant process in this area.

Yet from what we can see there has been little prior research attempted, and now the method of soliciting feedback is to use a github issue as an announcement for an internal DoD call... over google hangouts?

I get that organizations like 18F and DDS are trendy and hip, but get it together. If the idea of being open is important, then the second idea of being open without being an embarrassment should be equally important. If you're going to just do this as DDS, then I as a member of the DoD care a lot less about DDS organizational reputation, however you're claiming to represent the DoD with your organization/project naming (see #43).

This effort has already been put on Hn and other "news" resources. I'd be a lot happier for the general public to know that there is a real groundswell in the DoD to release and maintain projects in the open, rather than a confused thought experiment by a single organization that masquerades as the DoD.

BrandonBouier commented 7 years ago

@storrgie our availability is best for this afternoon. We will look at doing an additional one next week.

andrewgdunn commented 7 years ago

See my above edit and particularly understand my point about how other organizations are chartered to do real research, not just run projects about openness. If this is your primary objective, then make time.

seanenck commented 7 years ago

This is way too short of notice to properly schedule any meeting (having some work to be done and other requirements I'm supposed to be fulfilling) and, again to being open, this is now an internal "closed doors" meeting...

fulldecent commented 7 years ago

Time has passed. Recommending to close this issue.