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CookiePLMonster / SilentPatchBully

SilentPatch for Bully: Scholarship Edition (fixes crashes on Windows 10)
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Still encountering random crashes #23

Closed VL437 closed 4 years ago

VL437 commented 6 years ago

The game appeared more stable with your patch, but the deeper I progressed the more random crashes I started to encountered. I've joined all my dumps hoping it can help.

Bully.exe.20180708174259.zip Bully.exe.20180713203331.zip Bully.exe.20180713203631.zip Bully.exe.20180714162426.zip Bully.exe.20180714165256.zip

Here's where I remember encountering each of them. 1) During Chapter 1 mission "Help Gary" while fighting bullies in the school's bus/bike garage area 2) While biking in that same area, as I was about to leave school grounds (Chapter 2, not in a mission) 3) While simply walking in that same area again, I had prefects running after me (again, Chapter 2, a in any mission) 4) During the intro cutscene of Chapter 3 mission "Miracle on Bullworth St." 5) While being in the Dragon's Wing Comics shop basement (Chapter 3, not in any mission)

CookiePLMonster commented 6 years ago

Build 2 is now out! I do not know if this specific crashes have been fixed, though - but it's still worth a test!

VL437 commented 6 years ago

Thanks for the notice! I'll test and let you know if I'm still getting any issues.

VL437 commented 6 years ago

Nope :( Already got a new crash after not even 5 minutes...

For the 4th time, it happened on the right side of the school, as I was leaving the parking area. I was walking toward the school right after completing "A Little Help IV". I don't know whether these are just coincidences or there really is something up with that specific area...

Anyway, here's the dump: Bully.exe.20180722174641.dmp.zip

CookiePLMonster commented 6 years ago

Eugh... of course you have "that one crash everybody has but I've never been able to reproduce"... I have a feeling that if/when I fix that one specific crash, everyone will have a stable game.

Can you upload a save game from this exact moment? Also, since I think it crashes on something related to shadows, do you have them enabled or disabled? What are your exact game settings?

VL437 commented 6 years ago

Here's my save file: BullyFile1.zip

My settings are: Resolution = 1366 x 768 Anti Aliasing = Off VSync = On Shadows = Off

I'm playing on the steam version (1.200 SP Build 2) on Windows 10 (no compatibility mode) without any mod. My processor spec is "Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz, 2712 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)" (no graphic card).

I attempted to reproduce the crash 3 times by following the same route than in my previous message, but was only able to reproduce it once. Not sure if there's really a consistent way to reproduce it... Here the route (last save was done at nerd's hideout):

1) I went out by the main exit (by going through the store) (I didn't interact with any of the nerds, but I stopped to listen to what they were saying). 2) I ran to the nearest bus stop (just a bit to the north of the nerd's hideout) and took the bus. 3) Once at school, I ran to the "A little help IV" mission (I stopped in front of the school to listen to what NPCs were saying/doing, but again, I didn't interact with any of them). 4) I beat mission "A little help IV". 5) I attempted to walk back to the front of the school. This is where the crashes happened. On my previous message, it occurred right when I left the packing. This time, after leaving the parking, I stopped to watch a fight that was going on (no interaction, again) and then it crashed as I was walking under the arch separating the school's front from its right side.

Here's the dump if it can help: Bully.exe.20180722184610.dmp.zip

CookiePLMonster commented 6 years ago

You have shadows disabled - can you try enabling them? I am not 100% certain but I think your first crash traced back to some function related to shadows.

VL437 commented 6 years ago

I'm away from home and won't have access to the game until next weekend, but I'll try that once I'm back.

I believe I had shadows enabled at some point (for the first 4 crashes of my original message), but disabled them after reading forum comments stating it seems to make the game more stable.

CookiePLMonster commented 6 years ago

Miraculously, I once crashed at the same address now! I saved a full dump from this event so hopefully something can be read from that...

I then attempted exact same steps again and did not reproduce it - so as far as user actions go, it feels totally random.

VL437 commented 6 years ago

That's nice, good luck finding the cause! I tried with shadows set to "Low", but it didn't fix anything sadly :(

VL437 commented 6 years ago

Not sure if you're still working on the patch, but I've almost reached 100% completion at this point and I thought I'd share my observations:

I don't know if any conclusion can be drawn from those, but I hope it can help.

CookiePLMonster commented 4 years ago

Build 3 is now out. What I dubbed above as "this crash everybody has but I've been unable to reproduce" should be fixed now so I am going to close this. If you're still encountering crashes with Build 3, go ahead and reopen this issue.