Open stuartasutton opened 1 year ago
I think the definition should begin "Evidence of ...." or similar (-- it's an indicator, not the esteem itself)
Makes sense, Phil.
Definition: Evidence of high regard in which the CredentialOrganization, its component units or its faculty are publicly held.
Is it meant to be a reference to the evidence itself (ie rdfs:Resource) or merely an rdf:langString claiming such evidence/esteem/etc exists?
This ranges from a simple assertion of aggregate awards (e.g., 20 Nobel Prizes) to brief statements of specific awards (see for example the Nobel listings at chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.washington.edu/research/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Fact-Sheet-FY2018.pdf).
The esteemIndicator property should not be confused with the the much broader in scope notableAlumni (#857).
Are any of these indicators likely to be the same across multiple institutions? If so, the range of this should perhaps be a skos:Concept instead, so that users can filter based on which esteem indicators an institution has referenced.
Nothing precludes a skos:ConceptScheme; but it is also likely that the scope of those indicators is likely quite broad.
@stuartasutton @philbarker I think this one just comes down to deciding on what the range should be. I would lean towards skos:Concept (a bnode can be used if necessary), but I'm not knowledgeable enough about this particular topic to be 100% certain of that.
Downside of using a skos:Concept is that some of the data will only be available wordy format, e.g. in total the Institute has been home to winners of 6 Nobel prizes in Sciences and 3 Fields Medals and a Perkins Medal, currently 2 Nobel Laureates are on the Faculty, while alumni and former researchers have won... -- there's a lot there to unpack into different concepts without worrying about how to represent multiples.
+1 on Phil’s comment.
The proposed domain is:
ceterms:CredentialOrganization, ceterms:LearningProgram (et al)
Is that intended to expand to:
Or some other listing?
Also, the grammar of the comment seems a bit incomplete:
Examples of such recognition range from the number of Nobel Prizes, MacArthur Fellows (Genius Awards) awarded to faculty honors through National Academies and Societies.
"Examples of such recognition range from the number of (to what?)" Or is "through" meant the other way, e.g.: "Examples of such recognition range from the number of through (the other number of what?)"
Also, given the above conversation, is the range meant to be rdf:langString or rdfs:Literal?
As for https://github.com/CredentialEngine/Schema-Development/issues/855#issuecomment-1340042777, the answer is no. I meant the specific classes LearningProgram and CredentialOrgaization. Shouldn't have included "et al".
Why not also ceterms:Organization and ceterms:QACredentialOrganization? Both of those could receive various kinds of awards.
One indirect indicator of the quality of education available through a particular ceterms:CredentialOrganization or specific "department" of an institution are publicly recognized indicators of esteem such as the formal recognition of the faculty (individually or in sum) such as: (a) the number of Nobel Prizes or MacArthur Fellows awarded faculty or graduates over time, and (b) faculty honored through National Academies membership, etc..
See examples: University of Washington, Facts: FY 2018 https://www.washington.edu/research/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Fact-Sheet-FY2018.pdf).
This proposal for a new esteemIndicator property picks up on a name-drop by Phil regarding how this attribute is characterized in the UK.