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use lunate sigma in apparatus #280

Open paregorios opened 7 years ago

paregorios commented 7 years ago

In discussing another issue (#163), @rogerbagnall suggested that we switch from using medial sigma in apparatus (even when we print final sigma in text) to using lunate sigma.

I've created this new issue so we can discuss that suggestion and arrive at a decision about whether to implement and with what urgency.

I've assigned it to @rogerbagnall, @jcowey, @rla2118, @HolgerEssler for discussion (and have also copied @jds15, who has not accepted the invitation to join this issue tracker, so I can't assign him).

rogerbagnall commented 7 years ago

Just to add a bit of flesh to my suggestion: The great advantage (perhaps the only advantage) of the lunate sigma is to represent text in a way that does not foreclose alternative understandings of word divisions. The terminal and medial sigma both express particular views of what the word is and what the role of sigma is in the word. Lunate sigma is agnostic, and this seems to me useful in the apparatus. (Whether we ought to use it more broadly is another question.) I do not think this is urgent, however, and without a sense of the time-cost of implementing it, I would hesitate to put any priority on it.

jds15 commented 7 years ago

agree useful as described but not urgent. have no opinion about use in DCLP, but want to be sure that we dont produce unintended mess in DDbDP apps

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Just to add a bit of flesh to my suggestion: The great advantage (perhaps the only advantage) of the lunate sigma is to represent text in a way that does not foreclose alternative understandings of word divisions. The terminal and medial sigma both express particular views of what the word is and what the role of sigma is in the word. Lunate sigma is agnostic, and this seems to me useful in the apparatus. (Whether we ought to use it more broadly is another question.) I do not think this is urgent, however, and without a sense of the time-cost of implementing it, I would hesitate to put any priority on it.

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paregorios commented 7 years ago

It's trivial to implement output of lunate sigma in apparatus at this point (for DCLP and DDB together with one brickbat); we've already done the code archaeology. There are other knock-on questions:

rogerbagnall commented 7 years ago

I'd suggest we discuss this live with Josh next week. It seems to me that consistency across DCLP and DDBDP would be desirable, but I'm not sure what implications there might be for the latter.

jds15 commented 7 years ago

Sure. With the weeks remaining priority here will have to go to basic functional deployment. So, suggest that all things like this one (helpful but not essential) be arranged in rank order. Have the conversion scripts, XSLT, etc ready to go. Then, we can start marching down that list once we are running smoothly.

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I'd suggest we discuss this live with Josh next week. It seems to me that consistency across DCLP and DDBDP would be desirable, but I'm not sure what implications there might be for the latter.

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paregorios commented 7 years ago

Marking "priority: low (defer)" for now, per comment from @jds15