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What is an augmented seventh chord? Size of the seventh #24

Closed johentsch closed 3 years ago

johentsch commented 4 years ago

The mapping from chord features to chord types goes as follows:

Root Type Inversions Chord type
RN , 6, 64 Major triad
rn , 6, 64 Minor triad
rn o , 6, 64 Diminished triad
RN + , 6, 64 Augmented triad
RN 7, 65, 43, 2 Dominant seventh
rn 7, 65, 43, 2 Minor seventh
rn o 7, 65, 43, 2 Diminished seventh
rn % 7, 65, 43, 2 Half-diminished seventh
RN M 7, 65, 43, 2 Major seventh
rn M 7, 65, 43, 2 Minor major seventh
RN + 7, 65, 43, 2 Augmented seventh

The only problem is, that for all seventh chords the size of the seventh is defined but not for the augmented one. I suggest to fix it to always have a major seventh because in the case of the minor seven the chord is so much more likely to be analysed as an alterated dominant V7(#5).

adriannagel commented 4 years ago

Is it not possible to have two different symbols for the augmented seventh chord like RN+7 (-> which is a minor seventh) and RH+M7 (-> which is a major one)?

apmcleod commented 4 years ago

For me (as someone using the dataset with a music performance background, but no real classical theory education), a brief search when using the data lead me to this page (and other similar pages) that suggest that a standard augmented 7th chord has a minor 7th. The alternative seems to be commonly called "Augmented major 7th".

It's important that a naive user doesn't make the wrong assumption given the labels.

So, I think @adriannagel's suggestion is a good one.

apmcleod commented 4 years ago

Or at least, if we use RN+7 to mean something other than an augmented triad with a minor 7th, it needs to be made extremely clear.

johentsch commented 4 years ago

Great everyone, that's what we agreed on.

Solution: V+7 has a minor seventh, V+M7 has a major seventh. New table:

Root Type Inversions Chord type
RN , 6, 64 Major triad
rn , 6, 64 Minor triad
rn o , 6, 64 Diminished triad
RN + , 6, 64 Augmented triad
RN 7, 65, 43, 2 Dominant seventh
rn 7, 65, 43, 2 Minor seventh
rn o 7, 65, 43, 2 Diminished seventh
rn % 7, 65, 43, 2 Half-diminished seventh
RN M 7, 65, 43, 2 Major seventh
rn M 7, 65, 43, 2 Minor major seventh
RN + 7, 65, 43, 2 Augmented (minor) seventh
RN +M 7, 65, 43, 2 Augmented major seventh