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Defra header #2

Open cathydutton opened 5 years ago

cathydutton commented 5 years ago

What

Provide a pattern/component for internal service headers

Why

To maintain consistency across Defra's internal services

cathydutton commented 5 years ago

Related to this issue, which is in the 'To do' column of the Gov.UK design system backlog

cathydutton commented 5 years ago
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chrisadesign commented 5 years ago

I would question the need for logo in the top left.

At DWP we pushed for removing this from the header as it never had anywhere to link to, the service name is where you are and the link to your start/home page and this just introduced a duplicate link in the logo also linked there.

We decided to stick the logo down in the footer for what “brand identity” we needed.

The header bar was also used for key account links in the top right, with some research on-going at the time on placement of service navigation.

image Example of the header used on a service for internal users at DWP.

cathydutton commented 5 years ago

Similar to HMCTS

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benwakefield commented 5 years ago

HMRC internal header...

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I'd be inclined to understand the user's working environment before removing the defra logo. Internal users often have multiple browser windows open and it can help give people confidence they are in the right place.

We found using a light BG tested better (we initially started with the dark version)

HMRC header github issue

cathydutton commented 5 years ago

Do we need to differentiate between Internal services and external services that are not on Gov.uk?

benwakefield commented 5 years ago

Do you have examples of public facing (external) DEFRA services which are not on GOV.UK? Putting the hosting aside, I'd argue for internal and external services to clearly differentiate themselves. Internal services which are not hosted on GOV.UK cannot currently use the GOV crown / font. External, public-facing services would normally align to usual service design patterns.

cathydutton commented 5 years ago

I was thinking about things like a Defra standards website and/or pattern library, recruitment sites etc. These things are public facing but not on Gov.uk. Very different to our internal services though.

benwakefield commented 5 years ago

Thanks for clarifying - in which case no, at least not until we identify a need to do so, initially I think we should simply differentiate between: