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Pokemon Black/White freezes randomly when saving #1567

Closed JunkerWilli closed 1 year ago

JunkerWilli commented 1 year ago

Your console: Nintendo DSi XL

Launch Method: SD card using Unlauch 2.0

Version used: TWiLight Menu++ v25.9.4 - release version with nds-bootstrap v0.71.1. Also tried it with v25.8.1 with nds-bootstrap v0.70.0

Game tested/used/applicable: Pokemon Black, Pokemon White, Pokemon Schwarze Edition, Pokemon Weisse Edition

Expected Behavior: Game should not freeze while saving

Actual Behavior: Game freezes randomly while saving in Route 1 before reaching first city. The music however keeps playing

Steps to reproduce

  1. Play the game until you fight against your 2 rivals
  2. Go to route 1 and encounter a wild Pokemon
  3. try to save multiple times until it freezes

nds-bootstrap.ini

[NDS-BOOTSTRAP] USE_ROM_REGION = 1 NDS_PATH = sd:/roms/nds/Pokemon - Schwarze Edition.nds SAV_PATH = sd:/roms/nds/saves/Pokemon - Schwarze Edition.sav AP_FIX_PATH = sd:/_nds/nds-bootstrap/apFix.ips RAM_DRIVE_PATH = sd:/null.img GUI_LANGUAGE = de LANGUAGE = -1 REGION = 2 DSI_MODE = 0 BOOST_CPU = 0 BOOST_VRAM = 0 CARD_READ_DMA = 1 ASYNC_CARD_READ = 0 EXTENDED_MEMORY = 0 DONOR_SDK_VER = 0 PATCH_MPU_REGION = 0 PATCH_MPU_SIZE = 0 FORCE_SLEEP_PATCH = 0

I don't know if the freeze also happens in other stages of the game, because I only have started that game today. I also found a post on reddit covering that topic which is only 2 weeks old: https://www.reddit.com/r/3dspiracy/comments/12rffr1

I tried using the English version with the same outcome and also White instead of Black. What is more, I tried activating DS-Mode instead of DSi-Mode. However, also the same freeze occurs. Then I tried two other SD cards. Unfortunately, that also didn't fix the problem. Then I went on and tried a older version of TWiLight Menu++ (v25.8.1). The freeze also happend in that version. Acctually v25.8.1 seems to be fine. I just downloaded the latest version again when I thought I downloaded v25.8.1 :(. In v25.9.0 however the freeze occurred.

-> Therefore, with nds-bootstrap v0.70.0 no freeze but with nds-bootstrap v0.71.0 the freeze happens

Will you be available for future issues and/or replies?

Yes

RocketRobz commented 1 year ago

Because this issue hasn't been reported until some time ago, please try each prior version of nds-bootstrap until you see that the bug is fixed. Please let me know which version fixes the issue.

JunkerWilli commented 1 year ago

I have to correct myself. When I thought I was downloading v25.8.1, I was downloading the latest version of TWiLight Menu++ as I didn't expand the "Assets" in github but let myself forward to the homebrew page :/. So v25.8.1 with nds-bootstrap v0.70.0 actually did not freeze after 15 min of constant saving. Then I went on to install v25.9.0 with nds-bootstrap v0.71.0 and just after 2 minutes of repetitive saving the freeze occurred again. I tried then again v0.70.0 for 10 more minutes, but it was fine as before. So I think it is safe to say, the bug came into life in v0.71.0.

I will be playing more on v0.70.0 the next few days/weeks as I want to play through Black. If I notice a freeze on save, I will be informing you immediatelly.

RocketRobz commented 1 year ago

Please try this nightly build, and see if it fixes the issue: https://github.com/TWLBot/Builds/raw/master/nds-bootstrap.7z Place nds-bootstrap-nightly.nds and the nightly-bootstrap.ver files into sd:/_nds/, overwriting existing files. Then in TWLMenu++ Settings, change the Bootstrap setting to Nightly.

JunkerWilli commented 1 year ago

Yes, it most certainly seems that it fixed the issue. Atleast with that nightly version also after 15 minutes of saving no freeze occurred.

RocketRobz commented 1 year ago

Nice! Thank you for testing!

rsfez commented 1 year ago

Hi, I was wondering if the fix was reverted in the latest nightlies? I'm facing similar issues as OP with a similar setup.

Thank you!

RocketRobz commented 1 year ago

Hi, I was wondering if the fix was reverted in the latest nightlies? I'm facing similar issues as OP with a similar setup.

Thank you!

The fix has not been reverted, as it's been proven to work by reports from other users.

rsfez commented 1 year ago

Thanks. Yes it seems the nightly I put in the _nds folder either got replaced after launching the game by an older version, or more probably I just messed the transfer up.

I've been re-trying again since I noticed after I posted the previous message and everything looks fine so far 👍 Sorry about the noise.

krv3 commented 1 year ago

Please try this nightly build, and see if it fixes the issue: https://github.com/TWLBot/Builds/raw/master/nds-bootstrap.7z Place nds-bootstrap-nightly.nds and the nightly-bootstrap.ver files into sd:/_nds/, overwriting existing files. Then in TWLMenu++ Settings, change the Bootstrap setting to Nightly.

This solution does not eliminate the freezing, just attempted to save on pkmn black and it froze right after I hit yes to save.

Souljaboiii commented 1 year ago

Yesterday i had no issue with Saving.. but today i had some freezing in a few minutes… any help?

RocketRobz commented 1 year ago

This solution does not eliminate the freezing, just attempted to save on pkmn black and it froze right after I hit yes to save.

Revert the Bootstrap setting, then try updating the non-nightly nds-bootstrap version to v0.72.0. If the issue persists, then downgrade it to v0.71.2.

Please let me know what you have tried, so that in the case of the issue still persisting, I'll know what to do for the next version.

RocketRobz commented 1 year ago

Yesterday i had no issue with Saving.. but today i had some freezing in a few minutes… any help?

Did you update nds-bootstrap today?

Souljaboiii commented 1 year ago

I don’t think, maybe it updated it by himself? I’m using the nightly build you mentioned, or at least i think so..

RocketRobz commented 1 year ago

I don’t think, maybe it updated it by himself?

nds-bootstrap does not auto-update.

I’m using the nightly build you mentioned, or at least i think so..

What's the nightly build number shown in TWLMenu++ Settings?

Souljaboiii commented 1 year ago

Where do i check?

RocketRobz commented 1 year ago

Where do i check?

Top-left of the top screen of TWLMenu++ Settings.

Souljaboiii commented 1 year ago

It’s the v0.72.0

RocketRobz commented 1 year ago

It’s the v0.72.0

That's a release version number, not a nightly version number.

Seeing as you're on the latest version though, try downgrading to v0.71.2. https://github.com/DS-Homebrew/nds-bootstrap/releases/tag/v0.71.2

Souljaboiii commented 1 year ago

I’ll try! Thanks a lot, in case something happen I’ll ask for more help!

JunkerWilli commented 1 year ago

Yesterday I started to play Black 2 and I encountered the same freeze as in Black 1 today after the 4th total ingame save. So I was kinda suprised as I updated to v0.72.0 beforehand to make sure to have the fixed release version without using the nightly version you gave me a few weeks ago. So I guess I will stick with v0.71.2 for the while being.

Souljaboiii commented 1 year ago

Yesterday I started to play Black 2 and I encountered the same freeze as in Black 1 today after the 4th total ingame save. So I was kinda suprised as I updated to v0.72.0 beforehand to make sure to have the fixed release version without using the nightly version you gave me a few weeks ago. So I guess I will stick with v0.71.2 for the while being.

Yeah, i had no more save issues using the v0.71.2 So stick with it!

JunkerWilli commented 1 year ago

Indeed, after 11h of gameplay I can confirm v0.71.2 is working without save freezes.

MrPbhorseman commented 1 year ago

I have an issue in Pokemon Platinum 8 hours of playtime. This fix fixed it Now I'm on my 80 hours of playthrough and I have not encountered any crashes or freezes since then.

Please try this nightly build, and see if it fixes the issue: https://github.com/TWLBot/Builds/raw/master/nds-bootstrap.7z Place nds-bootstrap-nightly.nds and the nightly-bootstrap.ver files into sd:/_nds/, overwriting existing files. Then in TWLMenu++ Settings, change the Bootstrap setting to Nightly.