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DSheirer / sdrtrunk

A cross-platform java application for decoding, monitoring, recording and streaming trunked mobile and related radio protocols using Software Defined Radios (SDR). Website:
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Polyphase Channelizer - Decode Channels Go IDLE After Period of Time #1353

Closed DSheirer closed 1 year ago

DSheirer commented 1 year ago

When running multiple P25 control channels or other decoders, the channels go to an IDLE state after a period of time, indicating that they are no longer decoding the signal.

Troubleshooting

I added a channel FFT display to the Now Playing - Channel tab to verify if the channel was either not receiving sample buffers or if the channel center tuned frequency was misaligned. It turns out that each polyphase channel is misaligned by (approximately) FS/4. This seems consistent when viewing each of the multiple channels that were active when the polyphase channelizer gets into this state.

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In the screenshot, only the channels sourced by the Airspy tuner (450-460 MHz) were impacted and the VHF (150 MHz) channels sourced from a single RTL-2832 tuner were not impacted. The channel FFT added to the Channel tab indicates that the channel signal is mistuned to the right by approximately FS/4.

Work Around

  1. You can adjust the affected tuner's PPM up/down to get the polyphase channelizer to correct the mis-alignment and regain decoding on all of the channels.

or,

  1. Change to the Heterodyne Channelizer in User Preferences dialog and restart the application.

Investigate

Investigate what is causing the polyphase channelizer to misalign the channel sample streams. It may be helpful to add a click to log feature that logs the polyphase channelizer's center tuned frequency and each of the sourced channel's center tuned frequency settings to determine where the disconnect lies.

cfc62 commented 1 year ago

Any idea of when this might have been introduced? I monitor multiple CCs across multiple systems with multiple Airspy and have not encountered this issue.

DSheirer commented 1 year ago

@cfc62 I think the issue may have been there since the initial addition of the Polyphase channelizer. I think this is a threading issue. When there are multiple control channels issuing concurrent requests for traffic channel allocations, I found that there's a chance for a disconnect between changing the tuner frequency and updating the channelizer frequency offsets where things can get out of whack. I updated the channelizer to use thread locking to be more deliberate in the tuner and channelizer frequency updates and am testing that now to see if the issue is resolved.

cfc62 commented 1 year ago

Thanks for the update!

Brad-git-man commented 1 year ago

@DSheirer Thanks for working on this issue. I run 5 SDRs in an HSF cooled array (monitoring three P25 sties & several VHF freqs) and SDRT crashes after a while. I also raised the ram to 8 gigs in the JVM due to the heavy load on the program, which helped a little. I saw how to do it in an RR forum. I am running all of that on a 16 core Ryzen with 64 gigs.

DSheirer commented 1 year ago

@Brad-git-man pull down the latest branch and see if this resolves the issue for you. I ran for 24-hours continuous and didn't see the issue reappear .... it was popping up within 15 minutes to 3 hours for me previously.

Brad-git-man commented 1 year ago

@DSheirer I went to the latest branch page, but can't figure out how to pull it down, is it a complete version or do you just get the new Channelizer there and replace yours with the new one?

DSheirer commented 1 year ago

@Brad-git-man I'll be posting a new build shortly.

Brad-git-man commented 1 year ago

@DSheirer I have now installed it and I really like the improvements, the audio now seems clearer, thanks for all your great work. You are moving ever closer to version 1.0 which I know will be a truly great program.

GTR8000 commented 1 year ago

0.5.0 Final, Win 10, RTL-2832/R820T, 2.4 Msps, auto-PPM enabled

I just experienced this IDLE condition for the first time that I can recall.

This install is decoding a single VHF P25 control channel, along with one "dummy" P25P1 channel that serves to keep the site's channels centered for optimal decoding. At 11:24 this morning it seems that the control channel decoder went into the idle state, according to the recordings in Trunking Recorder. There was activity 30 seconds after that last transmission which was never decoded (logged in Unitrunker), and it remained idle until I noticed it a few minutes ago.

Looking at the spectrum (the channel FFT display mentioned in the first post is nowhere to be found), the dongle was functioning and was still within the frequency range of the control channel, as expected. I restarted the channel via the Playlist Editor, and it snapped right back to CONTROL status and is now decoding voice again.

Additional info: Well that's odd, I just looked again to verify that the tuner was set to Polyphase, which is how I always run SDRTrunk, and surprisingly it was set to Heterodyne. I have no way of knowing if I somehow set that myself a long time ago, or if it changed on its own somehow.

Unfortunately I'm therefore not able to determine whether the IDLE condition happened in Heterodyne or Polyphase mode. I've set it back to Polyphase and will continue to monitor.