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What to do about anthologies? #2

Closed vigorousjammer closed 8 years ago

vigorousjammer commented 8 years ago

Hey there, Daiz! So, I ran into another issue recently... For anthology manga such as Robot, I'm having trouble figuring out what is the best way to sort stuff... Most of what these anthologies publish are one-shots, but especially in the case of Robot, it seems like most users still have a desire to sort each volume in the order the chapters were published, despite the chapters being unrelated. Now, most users have adopted a chapter numbering system that works per-volume... (for example, volume 1 might have chapters 1-8, and then, volume 2 would have a separate batch of chapters, also numbered 1-8). However, this style doesn't seem to work for our naming scheme since the chapter number comes first, leaving things to be sorted as following:

Robot - 001 (v01) [Oneshot] [Group Name] Robot - 001 (v02) [Oneshot] [Group Name] Robot - 001 (v03) [Oneshot] [Group Name] Robot - 001 (v04) [Oneshot] [Group Name] Robot - 002 (v01) [Oneshot] [Group Name] Robot - 002 (v02) [Oneshot] [Group Name]

and so on...

So, what is the alternative?

I propose perhaps adopting a naming scheme specifically for anthologies that gets rid of chapter numbering, like so:

Robot - (v01x1) [Oneshot] [Extra Information] [Group Name] Robot - (v01x2) [Oneshot] [Extra Information] [Group Name] Robot - (v01x3) [Oneshot] [Extra Information] [Group Name]

I suppose we could possibly still go with the "000" method used for other one-shots, and have it be like this:

Robot - 000 (v01x1) [Oneshot] [Extra Information] [Group Name] Robot - 000 (v01x2) [Oneshot] [Extra Information] [Group Name] Robot - 000 (v01x3) [Oneshot] [Extra Information] [Group Name]

Although, in my opinion, that's just three extra unneeded characters.

Another good idea would be to have the chapter title in the file name... seeing as they are one-shots, it should be in there somewhere. I propose something like this:

Robot - 000 (v01x1) - Chapter Title [Oneshot] [Extra Information] [Group Name] Robot - 000 (v01x2) - Chapter Title [Oneshot] [Extra Information] [Group Name] Robot - 000 (v01x3) - Chapter Title [Oneshot] [Extra Information] [Group Name]

Edit: Another thing I ran into... for oneshots where the source isn't from a magazine, the web, or a numbered volume... should I just use (vol) instead? There's many anthology books out there that collect one-shots from magazines, but since the raws came from a volume I feel like I should still list it as such. What do you think?

Daiz commented 8 years ago

Generally speaking, the idea with anthologies would be to title the chapters by the actual name of the oneshot. The fact that it comes from a particular volume of the Robot anthology could then be expressed in extra information. So you'd have names like this:

Angels at the Planetarium - 000 (v00) [Oneshot] [Robot v01] [Group Name].zip
Carogna - 000 (v00) [Oneshot] [Robot v01] [Group Name].zip
Wasteland - 000 (v00) [Oneshot] [Robot v01] [Group Name].zip
Dream of the Empty Cage - 000 (v00) [Oneshot] [Robot v01] [Group Name].zip

And so on.

However, if you wanted to keep them together, you could still work it out by making the volume information simply a part of the name. So then you'd have:

Robot v01 - 001 (v00) [Oneshot] [Group Name].zip
Robot v01 - 002 (v00) [Oneshot] [Group Name].zip
...
Robot v02 - 001 (v00) [Oneshot] [Group Name].zip
Robot v02 - 002 (v00) [Oneshot] [Group Name].zip

Which will sort correctly.

You're right that a number-free (vol) indicator would be a good idea for something like these in place of a (v00) or such. On the other hand, anthologies, especially ones with numbered releases, could be considered magazines too... for example, one of the Dowman Sayman chapters from a Robot anthology has also released in a Dowman Sayman book.

Yeah, the more I think about it, anthologies would probably be better off just labeled with (mag).

vigorousjammer commented 8 years ago

Looks good! Thanks for the clarification! ^_^