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CFP 2106-10: DeFiChain Fiat Exchange (15'000 DFI) #40

Closed RobinTorque closed 3 years ago

RobinTorque commented 3 years ago

Overview:

Requester: Robin Torque Amount requested in DFI: 150’000 first 15'000 Receiving address: dXz2YUUA4b1SVej5G6BrQf6Tz5QmsNiDT7 Reddit discussion thread: Deutsch, English Proposal fee (10 DFI) txid: 79e94eb3bce180467aee39d053a9b1f1a9ae7dec23531e91f667bd1bf493c20e Note: This CFP requests a distribution assuming that the specified targets are met in future. If we do not meet our goals, no DFI will be distributed. If the targets are met, the distribution should occur without having to resubmit another CFP.

While many DeFiChain users cry "when Binance" and struggle with big or small exchanges to exchange DFI into Fiat or Fiat into DFI, a small group of tech geeks is already working on an ultimate solution. A fully regulated crypto exchange that focuses exclusively on the needs of DeFiChain users and can be integrated by any other software via API. This exchange run by DeFiChain enthusiasts pursues the goal of making DeFiChain bigger and more successful.

Our Vision:

A smartphone wallet that allows anyone globally to easily buy and sell DeFiChain assets or fractions of them with a few clicks. Some users will load some pocket money into their account using a credit card and then trade some risky stocks on the decentralized exchange (DEX). Others use the app to invest in rock-solid securities via weekly bank transfers on a savings plan basis and build up wealth long-term. The app is always incredibly simple to use. Using the DEX, depositing fiat money or even withdrawing, everything works simply and smoothly. Some users use the app, as they want to be able to build a censorship-resistant and expropriation-proof stock portfolio. Others haven't even realized that this app has anything to do with Blockchain and just enjoy the simplicity of use, the 24/7 trading offer and the welcoming community that has evolved around the app.

While other communities are still spending time and energy shilling its own shitcoin on Twitter, since that's all they know how to do, DeFiChain is really taking off and in fact, we are in the phase of creating real use cases that will change the world. DeFiChain users will no longer need to shill $DFI or DeFiChain, because we have a genuine product that satisfies real needs of normal people: the ability to buy and sell any asset in the world simply and easily 24 hours 7 days a week with no minimum order size, no custody fees and no fixed fees per trade. The censorship resistance and expropriation protection that the blockchain offers comes as an additional feature on top and gives the traditional financial systems the death blow for the retail market.

In order to achieve this goal, a lot of work still needs to be done. Among other things, we need a way to switch easily from FIAT to DFI and vice versa. This is exactly what our project is about. A fully regulated exchange that can be integrated into any software via API and processes the FIAT to DFI exchange in a straight-forward and direct way.

Purpose of this project:

We want to make Fiat to crypto exchanges as easy as possible for all DeFiChain assets. While we have 1000 ideas in mind about this service, we will focus here solely on what we will realistically achieve this year.

Purchase of DFI assets without KYC via SEPA bank transfer

To do this, we use the same business model as Relai.ch . Users can enter their IBAN address in a software and select a DeFiChain asset (e.g. DFI, dBTC, LM tokens like DFI-BTC, decentralized stocks on DeFiChain) to buy. Multiple assets can be selected as well. Only one bank transaction is needed to buy the corresponding asset. The company needs to know which asset is purchased and that’s why a corresponding Order ID is transmitted in the payment message. After the company has received the transferred money, the desired asset is purchased and transferred to the user's wallet address on the blockchain. As with Relai, the user always checks the coins himself after purchasing and does not have to provide any personal data such as name or address, as verification is done via bank details only. Transfers can also be done by means of a recurring payment order, whereby a savings plan is created investing in the corresponding asset. As with Relai, there is a limit of 900 EUR or 1000 CHF per person per day or 90'000 EUR or 100'000 CHF per year.

Sale of of DFI assets without KYC via SEPA bank transfer

Only a few clicks are necessary in order to sell DeFi assets like dBTC, DFI or DFI-BTC Liquidity Pool shares in exchange for FIAT. The user selects the corresponding asset, enters the quantity and presses ‘Sell’. This transfers the corresponding asset on the blockchain to the company which exchanges the tokens into EUR and transfers the EUR amount to the customer via SEPA bank transfer. For this, the IBAN, the BIC of the bank, name, address, email address and phone number must be provided.

Linking with the own Masternode

We will also offer to operate our service in combination with a Masternode. A receiving wallet address of the company can be entered as the reward payout address of a Masternode. As soon as a Masternode has found a block, the DFI reward will be exchanged into EUR and transferred via SEPA bank transfer to the customer. If the user has not made a KYC and the reward is greater than 900 EUR, only 900 EUR are paid out and the remaining DFI amount is returned to the owner address of the masternode.

Use of services after conducted KYC

It will also be possible to go through a regular KYC process to execute transactions without limit.

Referral Programm

Users pay 0.5% less transaction fees by using a Ref-Link. Ref-Link providers receive 0.5% on each buy order which could become an extremely interesting model that raises the awareness of the exchange tremendously and thus, to the awareness of DFI and DeFiChain.

How will the CFP be spent?

We propose to support the launch of the DeFiChain Fiat Exchange by means of a CFP. The alternative would be to take external venture capitalists on board as investors in the company. This would make it impossible for us to work uncompromisingly for the success of DeFiChain, because the investors want to see the biggest return possible which is not our main focus. We build this service due to our conviction and enthusiasm to make DeFiChain a great DeFi project. We want to make the world a better place through financial inclusion and believe we can contribute to that with this project in combination with DeFiChain. Our efforts are focused on the users of DeFiChain and aim to make DeFiChain successful. Therefore, it is not an option for us to work with venture capitalists. All our expenses will be paid from our own savings until the launch of the Exchange and it should be possible to finance the expenses spent by means of a fee on buying and selling DeFiChain assets. However, a CFP could help us significantly to get more users on board via cheap fees and to accelerate the development.

Business Model without CFP:

Buy and sell orders of DFI cost the same as with Relai: 3% of the transaction volume. When using a Ref-Link, a buy order still costs 2.5% with 0.5% being distributed to the link provider. Buying and selling BTC or other tokens costs a bit more, because the DEX fee for exchanging assets has to be paid as well.

Business Model with CFP:

Sell orders are not subsidized and still amount to 3% of the sales volume. Buy orders on any asset are subsidized via CFP and cost only 1% without Ref-Link and 0.5% with Ref-Link measured by the buy volume, whereby this 0.5% is transferred to the Ref-Link provider.

The CFP pays out 15% of the buy volume once per successful buy order to the DeFiChain Fiat Exchange. Consequently, the CFP of 150'000 DFI is used up with a buy volume of 1 million DFI. Purchases of other assets such as BTC or DFI-BTC Liquidity Pool Tokens are also included. The company publishes all transactions with full transparency, so that anyone can verify the use of the DFI from the CFP.

Subsequently, all trades are expected to cost 3% of the buy/sell volume. The fee will continue to decrease over time, when volumes become larger. The community can also vote for another CFP to speed up the further development of the software (platform/app) and the integration of more payment channels. Before that, however, we will talk to the community first to meet the wishes of the community.

In case the CFP will be accepted, the amount of DFI will not be paid out immediately. Only AFTER the successful launch of the Exchange WITH an officially issued financial license in Switzerland and completed software, the payment of the CFP will be made as mentioned above.

DFI funds from the CFP are distributed as follows:
Organisation behind DeFiChain Fiat Exchange (buy order subsidisation, legal/compliance, operating expenses)
 60’000 DFI
Marketing (Social Media campaign, ads, et cetera) 10’000 DFI
Team (15 active team member at the moment) 80’000 DFI in Total 28’500 DFI for future team members 51’500 DFI for current team∅ 3’433 DFI/team member
TOTAL: 150’000 DFI

The company behind the DeFiChain Fiat Exchange is already incorporated as a Swiss public limited company. As soon as the financial license has been granted, more details about the company incorporation can be announced within the next weeks after this CFP. This step shows our commitment to make this project a success. To achieve this ambitious goal, we need a rapidly growing user base. We intend to achieve this by subsidizing buy orders, making it attractive to use our DeFiChain Fiat Exchange as described above. This will be done by using a portion of the 60'000 DFI (50%) coming from the CFP.

Another large expense for the company is legal advice and regulatory implementation of the business model, for which 45% of the 60'000 DFI shouldl be spent. For the time being, we calculate with a scope of 100h legal consulting at an hourly rate of CHF 600 per hour!, so that there is still a small buffer for additional expenses for legal advisory. For this purpose, we have engaged the most renowned law firm in Switzerland in terms of legal advice within the blockchain space. This is imperative from our point of view, as our business model enters entirely new regulatory territory which has not been done before by any other business. In order not to jeopardize our business model, we rely on the legal assessment of our law firm. For more details regarding the legal and regulatory aspects, please contact us. Finally, a company has running costs (domains, servers, etc.) that need to be covered, but for which only a very small portion of the 60'000 DFI will be spent (5%).

A total of 10'000 DFI of the 150'000 DFI from the CFP is supposed to be spent on marketing and most of which will go into ads. We want to run a marketing campaign on all (social media) channels right from the beginning to make potential users aware of our offer. Therefore, we are currently talking to people who are capable of running the marketing for the DeFiChain Fiat Exchange.

80'000 DFI are to be allocated in total to individual team members that we intend to use to compensate team members for the time and development work they currently volunteer in addition to their professional duties. Furthermore, 28'500 DFIs of the 80'000 DFIs are earmarked exclusively for new team members who join after this CFP. This results in an average distribution of ∅3'433 DFI/member with 15 active team members currently. We see our human capital as the most important resource for the success and rapid realization of the DeFiChain Fiat Exchange and we want to attract further dedicated people to this project through incentives coming from the CFP.

How does the DeFiChain Community benefit from this CFP?

  1. Each decentralized share is created by depositing DFI. For example, if someone buys a TESLA share for 100 EUR through our service, a demand for DFI worth 200 EUR is created. It is even three times that amount in the case of a DFI-TSLA Liquidity Token. By simplifying access to DeFiChain assets through our service, more money will flow into the DeFiChain ecosystem driving up the DFI value.
  2. Users can easily invest in DFI or make withdrawals without KYC.
  3. Masternode operators can have blockrewards paid out directly in EUR to their bank account without active intervention.
  4. The exchange will also offer advisory services and help users with high transaction volumes avoid issues with banks and other authorities. Users will be able to disclose their transaction history and thus, obtain proof of origin of funds through us. The Exchange fully supports its customers to not get into trouble with their banks. Unlike the other providers, we are able to provide this advisory by having full expertise of DeFiChain and its assets.
  5. The project will use a portion of the CFP for active marketing, placing advertisements on platforms such as Facebook or Instagram.
  6. The ref-link system will create an additional incentive to talk about DeFiChain and contribute to larger word-of-mouth spread of DeFiChain.

Team behind DeFiChain Fiat Exchange

Behind the scenes, there are currently 15 people actively working on DeFiChain Fiat Exchange: Robin Torque, Daniel Klaiber, Yannick (DeFiChain Moderator), Jonas Surmann (DeFiChain Explained), Arthur, Jeff, Felix B., DZ, Jonathan S., Santiago S. Dennis L., Pedro, Tristan W., Mark A. (DeFiChain tax group), Leon, Bernd M., Andreas L. . In addition, there are other members who serve as advisors to the DeFiChain Fiat Exchange.

Some members of the team are known from previous DeFiChain projects and let their expertise flow into the DeFiChain Fiat Exchange:

More information about our team to be found on our website: fiat2defi.ch. You are also welcome to contact us directly on Telegram: t.me/DeFiChange .

If you want to contribute to the success of DeFiChain Fiat Exchange, please reach out to us to work on the project. We are very grateful for any help.

FAQ:

Is the service also offered for CAKE or other providers?

Our API interface is open source and accessible by anyone. Any platform can implement our service without having to ask us for permission. Only our standards have to be followed.

Will other currencies for payments be offered in future?

Yes, all common currencies will be offered.

Are other payment systems offered?

Yes, we are already working on integrating as many payment systems as possible. If the CFP is approved, we will be able to further increase our efforts and accelerate the implementation of additional payment systems.

 What happens to the fees, if the user does not use a ref-link?

The money is transferred into a separate account that is used exclusively for marketing such as Facebook ads.

What happens, in case someone runs Washtrading trades to trigger the CFP distribution?

All trades made by our company will be publicly viewable and trackable on the blockchain at the outset. Wash trading can be quickly identified and will not be counted by us as real trading.

How much money and time has already been invested in the project so far?

Technology-wise, we have a whole team that has sacrificed many hours of their free time to develop the software. People who don't do things for money, but work hard for hours out of love and conviction to realize our vision. The CFP will help us to have some people working full time on the project. Cost-wise, we can't provide exact details unfortunately, however we can disclose that we are working with the most reputable blockchain law firm in Switzerland. Each lawyer costs 600 CHF per hour and other expenses accrued so far are immense (incorporation, et cetera).

Is there already a website available?

Yes, but still under development: fiat2defi.ch

How does the timeline look like?

We want to offer FIAT to Crypto money exchange within the next 2 months from now on and Crypto to FIAT within the next 3 months. Our lawyers have confirmed that this is a realistic goal, if we continue to work at this fast pace and considering the associated costs.

Can I support the project?

Yes, please have a look at our GitHub repo github.com/DeFiChange or check out our Telegram channel t.me/DeFiChange.

What is involved in software development and is everything OpenSource?

There are several ongoing software development to realize this project:

  1. Website
  2. Backend infrastructure of Crypto exchange
  3. API between exchange and user software
  4. User software

The website is open source under a Creative Commons CC BY-SA 4.0 license. The backend of the Crypto exchange cannot be easily published for security reasons and therefore remains the property of the company. The API and user software are developed under MIT license and published on GitHub: github.com/DeFiChange.

On which platforms is the service published?

We intend to publish our software on all common platforms.

Who can make a SEPA bank transfer?

SEPA is a European payment system supported by effectively all banks in European countries. We are also looking for solutions for people outside of Europe or people who do not have a bank account. The CFP will help us to add other payment systems faster to address these issues.

dpfaffenbauer commented 3 years ago

One thing that is unclear to me: Where do you get the DFI's from to have liquidity? I mean, if I want to buy 10k DFI for 30k €, where do you get the 10k DFI from?

You are basically not an exchange with an order-book, you would be a sort of broker/seller.

dpfaffenbauer commented 3 years ago

Another question I have is: Could you explain the roles of each team-member? Having a team of 15 people that also work on other projects, were they also received funding, is quite a lot. Not to get me wrong here, it can make sense, I just like to know who is responsible for what and how they are part of the company in Switzerland.

dpfaffenbauer commented 3 years ago

some more :)

Who buys the rewards you directly pay out in Euros or Swiss Franks? You need a buyer in order to exchange from DFI to FIAT

What if someone directly wants to pay out like 100k DFI? You have to have the money to pay them. Do you have like 300k € liquidity?

uzyn commented 3 years ago

Note: This CFP requests a distribution assuming that the specified targets are met in future. If we do not meet our goals, no DFI will be distributed. If the targets are met, the distribution should occur without having to resubmit another CFP.

@RobinTorque can you edit to make it a 1-time CFP. Recurring payment will require on-chain governance, for now please make it a 1-time request.

RobinTorque commented 3 years ago

Unfortunately, it is not possible to request staggered payouts at the moment.

Therefore, we are requesting payment of 10% (15,000 DFI) after the proposal is accepted by MN.

We will reapply for the remaining 90% once the conditions are met as per our proposal.

The distributed 15k will not be used. They will remain at the address until the corresponding condition in our CFP has been met. So if there is a turnover of 100'000 DFI, these 15'000 DFI will be used.

Thank you.

uzyn commented 3 years ago

Voting

Refer to announcement for June voting dates, and to README for voting instructions.

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p3root commented 3 years ago

Therefore, we are requesting payment of 10% (15,000 DFI) after the proposal is accepted by MN.

@uzyn could you please adapt the title - to make sure no one gets confused? THANKS

JesusCryptos commented 3 years ago

I summarize my concerns: The company that was mentioned on Youtube and was founded with a starting capital of 100,000.- does NOT yet exist! See shab.ch or moneyhouse.ch. On the other hand, I do not understand why we should finance advertising for a product from a company that does not yet exist and whose product does not yet work. As soon as they really promising their product works, I'll be happy to spend funds on it, but definitely not beforehand!

SurmannJonas commented 3 years ago

Robin is addressing questions re our CFP in a YouTube Live with Santiago (DeFiChain-Explained, Crypto Explained) and DZ (defichain-analytics.com) on Tuesday, June 8th, 2021 at 08:30pm UTC+2. The interview will be held in German with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DubUrIPFajA

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DefiLobster commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8Zg2ohcLuvCpotCu7SmEDdksdxEaMKZrKP "cfp-2106-10-yes" IE2abJoXj2JBjjPWpTnhtxwJ9s+1gRntcTAGZqfG5KU+DoC9a+lh7WVKG48TPQCxWJ3jc3mF50c4kn74ni3IphE=

seppwurscht commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8LTofKossAHtJWaTf1bkmnGAHPnM7ZHBex "cfp-2106-10-yes" IOeQniiKbSJBy9abWufJIHkp+i9Xy73HmSboxO2ym1M8e6/+z/WO7JXJNpVDLtiZgSm97UifmG1Oe4wCxY05bS8=

wizardofwhere1 commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8VZxBtQXAVuscxPDToBUzAAv8we5uCNiff "cfp-2106-10-yes" H1cmOAxIN83jB3OLgW7Hb0AUzdxS3IiiiyyJR+iCl9sYWqNc1cfYPFwjOjl8+ZoU5JfxXMwdF9QTLRfrJw5N8hM=

Elevenotion commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli  signmessage 8e2hGayRn3nW9ctko7cCXMKUBxMGS9oPeh "cfp-2106-10-yes" H5U56jVk7ZFmL9cTm1WAamA19vl0enmeFphvC9iBJLZKNcPbYIGS7FVB+iIsT/8kHwdAjiaPi7owe+LYNB7EfLo= $ defi-cli  signmessage 8UoHhaVeMqQ1mrotdeKA4PBxagnSYGEd8z "cfp-2106-10-yes" IDPIEdRmczJB3RwDmcEya4Ki0CZoImHbVCWkRH1DOW+/LkvQTdF0u+9YnFVJj6BtyCPMx44LMg92kTGXYjDbVN0= $ defi-cli  signmessage 8UL7imiFvNyZcKJoGwRa3sB92hMWCjRezX "cfp-2106-10-yes" IBlY/vl2RNijDLsY64rMA90gCVErBP+lZOqZH/eVaRAUCeoeCf2BS4bSx1X+RDMXTwnLkxPU0KtlcYzKh3Iuu6Y= $ defi-cli  signmessage 8GwzbF9KqPxEEBGPKeJYULJi9au99z3bid "cfp-2106-10-yes" ICH9qV3NGPWU5du066G5sZDBTe+O7LRaOhCxAxzQi5gZftdS24A/lvcV2m4uW5nMA2IVxixyauzTiLn1MsGcLfQ= $ defi-cli  signmessage 8aJBSiW8NvcVKwMRnZTvEshdsqBKQeW7XF "cfp-2106-10-yes" IDgKc5PLAEHP+u/iFgkGT090VpSsduypScFcp/ipGlbMZtx1lACw9sSaSZNDsscnAgGbmw0Et1o36wOsDb+Ijxc= $ defi-cli  signmessage 8LEGgm4oJLQVsyWYhoMT17zWN7WtDfCnjd "cfp-2106-10-yes" IMdVl82FTlwe2NccXLekuNa9s4oT9HQhTU5p3rlVEk3BELC9LwC/PhZpm4qztefq1qGw02itzqZBTQii4jM4ZPA= $ defi-cli  signmessage 8b4adVvU6WZz9Dnh947EQkrBoxGUoUt9Th "cfp-2106-10-yes" IPLa7nk0jtgfJhRQHEWWFedjvZig3Zz3Vx0swoGyjgvnJ6iQc3uSw3D90KYV4D5GzqmRtcPR6xMnMymGkvFwc1c=

dfi4e commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli  signmessage 8RXAe519QQhRoWL5ZXgCzhLy6LNznKy4zY "cfp-2106-10-yes" IKakaWMm6rqdrBo7L5txXmmnGhCE7lZtiHjD1Jmywe1PfdQyeoqGTaxcRs0ghZT7IVUFZMOOl6gIlJLVNfsLV+E= $ defi-cli  signmessage 8R7u6uGcSs4dj3V11BneGkWpVtvLcaCw71 "cfp-2106-10-yes" IBF5kAVEu6xILuWy6mlqc3hyn497ver79psVSe/QMy9SVdDsIHXQQVWCVecCjwDg/5Y4WUUsrjSO3DXl1l9wc8k= $ defi-cli  signmessage 8Pyuk9ogue4Scpr8HsoBqduuiN7VFCbC2a "cfp-2106-10-yes" H+6gbXDUUpOzRgniHJ3FhaaB/dP2NTz/Z7eY68VBFwCXN2v022DK1g2s4dPF6QVTKmLY8o4PQDDQi7PDNxdSJLE=

addictedtocookies commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8ZVS15wW8qyh6chG7oC5JjsWCXuUC49qR8 "cfp-2106-10-no" H698dxa+suLyJxhi+KBMG6ShNdgEhciHt/SDPeQYtS2+OfRs5n6hn4Msve8OxUF/8Q12gzQLpS4QpQ5ZnZPbp3E= $ defi-cli signmessage 8eQJbB5twfEAuw6WDiZYaR7zmc8arsqUWN "cfp-2106-10-no" IJlYNv7NnGb5qlOTTdRUY7plUF/xauwpLDty2wYXukwUUVdrYxYLIudSw6Sy9S3EaYoeDORwLlMcOtHNqhi0OSA= $ defi-cli signmessage 8WDwsNh6Mk2nnixNnKFAP8cGwg8zwzQrxG "cfp-2106-10-no" IAUdjyKXfSwBb27VcSeZERo6ntUf0U7cid3Yeb9qGaxNcKP1s4nKDaVOO1YnFLWjYYNhGE49U4MT/Klz+tskc40=

IBIIHUJ commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8FyZ5hVLR1ucDD6fdEUJdtnpW3BsDT4LSQ "cfp-2106-10-yes" HysVtgkByoLNsCklti2Je0VvI+Yj8pWauDOfX8TjiMThb1xUanMARZOPlB2nZeWkJzXp2eUISLKyF7ldoBkTJiE= $ defi-cli signmessage 8TUgBBrgBCc1LbqvVyLSfz91kbFBFme8Y5 "cfp-2106-10-yes" H9uDGS3djW6b3W9EHM8Q+XKVqgiiXFNW1q5RhhRoRJ4SAl3iLYTHmwpeBMtv6UmNKAJppIhIw2lte+j31BfdO7E= $ defi-cli signmessage 8ZrmTDhQaRQc2vVFPtceZdyEjprNbCwujD "cfp-2106-10-yes" H9f3MznHtGMhzqDHL/X+mlWkRTZcES1jrtx/LJpMOeZkY9LXwGfKkIJdwl4EK2ath29qIjVvYmuiD8uqNn1n2J0= $ defi-cli signmessage 8UWPEQ9fWGEQ8aDknEKnbMaEkZxan2EvSf "cfp-2106-10-yes" H/rj8BFaF7uDZDSqjG7knaGYzxn/Ns8/f9O+G8sewXRTOTVPQSTpEwYzjws2lpB4QezUVgQuedSfQY7nISivocE= $ defi-cli signmessage 8RLGUA8T7GX5xKGQ56VtoJH9gd8DdCUthL "cfp-2106-10-yes" INEB6S2mXmikcTEQZzvDNTcFq2C49tacbB2jqfA/scy8S0ZZPUG1rmcjuih3X1ZaxcS9F7+TN60WuOZS2594mgU=

wetsnakes commented 3 years ago 
$ defi-cli  signmessage 8NED5fequ6k2it7k9mZN54qpDdwDNwSsU7 "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8PQGqdFDFKBXB1pcBzHJpanDnuutYaih8q "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8GoBZyUjQdZZjWaUms1TxmSx8D8vydW5Up "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8dSpZVxisBr9UfG8HbyUU86hydVJL7Ef5J "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8cppa8jZb23eDcds6S5ox7XaKKg699r9JT "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8JDFoSmyX5VEhntveK9HrcoHZS2tuj2quM "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8M767wCwdvtFwYDm8hpeVAQxBk6rTNUcdD "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8TqoNqksKuUY641vMMhf42tSSSdTKx8R4q "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8aYtzUtcPJ9ReAqCRvNGeDHKohgLYcR6Ft "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8LosoHS25r49vAkVsMcQsFggPeH177Vjhd "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8K4QbLmm7rh6yrHoDitNMNhjJJpvVYzKvM "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8aTDHMVuwCaEjycYzCjHYWBmCymhbFKsbR "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8SQkqxhvE4EUfQXbUQskqKAZvE6mMVLnTm "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8HyegERjH7BmYuQDzZ4zKiDZP8PRtvLsfN "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8R86SnY3sNUUXGpy2ToLYJqBGqaTTHarcE "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8bYruVHN57QMEAbMPJdRabaKQ7j2CuJtXN "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8WqFQc9C4ujoFAzt7fitKGPUZ88Usr8qbn "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8LQUyr8ztGa7tvNjRZZreu4R3yuwDuVG2N "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8RZJwYj5fYPNLGkcB1KgiDhUUCVD8NzB7o "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8bpvFXHTCC9jPBvKeC6dLVab9k8LnmuzoD "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8abBgv8y8G1aCV5hwkfWQVG2h7JJKXHk3P "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8ZAF9MJjecV3m15HZpubNe1kq9ro4qPa66 "cfp-2106-10-no"
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$ defi-cli  signmessage 8bpw4qKZDH228tn4iHqKnwQc7oeDaGmMHz "cfp-2106-10-no"
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rmcookie commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8dEUXp1tgAQHK6xtGZu4xk3NpL1U1P7z5T "cfp-2106-10-yes" IMnVagmUAFcR+mkTEJi7NXES6xhZdVtSBDpRAyOyL9mMXmcMWQjEnKLvQKxINB1HmhaYKWff5rfAfIh92vWQVlo=

Fragharvester commented 3 years ago

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Amino159 commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8PYJkF3dnVdtRgb3BxYcKAR8K1spAvDBzU "cfp-2106-10-yes" H3ubkHpAvvOBAmXqteloV1rn3m5LpKAF0VlHU/LjGcL/KZMJQgGKlSI6WlrAQvUOAfdYxkivt3gJ7CXLovlPKgU= $ defi-cli signmessage 8UHrvW9dn3AYbSKA2AnKYwvcURMRK4gPpU "cfp-2106-10-yes" IONz5gohYwZ4T2YmpWsHV1u0bosS5uuSizb0CNVBVceZSdSW3nW9IoWCcehGtttRGM6BPIQaTl+oigrGBTqWXjQ= $ defi-cli signmessage 8NU3QxoUbh3oAg93dMUBJLohVVWUnSGbZV "cfp-2106-10-yes" H4EGVeMUS/oxYH27c2tB/qbpVRVczqJHN8Vy5KjK+5tYK9uWO/SPqayvlUDg5zsxeBQHOhNdMuaaM8anbpnrnh4= $ defi-cli signmessage 8WMyhiRrmw5hjLk7LZN5njevAqkV8PxAw4 "cfp-2106-10-yes" IGAgPuhDf4DUnWlW/IFpzVjdAPFdeiSEy4UbXZU1qh4DThS3GrlzzHh2mTBgCM5xV8KK0TNNRNYS1XJzfHaXNJc=

jugrib commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8WpKkyyMdDQVnuYxZ87aqremVQ4GKnRTJL "cfp-2106-10-yes" H2YPz503JsRG4dB9KcYdya0O6ePK3v/uIUDy9aL8+pffEMAjxWtfMrLYa6qb52TbhtbYy4RSFZTHoO5/yX4/Xs8=

DFI-UnknownUser commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8XUMhopwkDiRvdpYgyiEUGqc5D9ENC1Gsb "cfp-2106-10-yes" H0EC2z8kMfzZ9bNOJP+PYZt2tgLv6aPgN/fb0H2mD6ocSNIuZa9UWIn4ewmuHfTHnMfk51UmBkTKP6znmWn6ZwA=

Joe2700 commented 3 years ago

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1unne commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8TtRR25SoDMffc3V2Tm2sFr4Sx6iodj7wP "cfp-2106-10-neutral" IAgZFXOVetbge7Ngfc/J6yEZwqtZNrZ4Y1uPREtvyY4vB3Fxyx3OTvVhhfS7OC2GsQk59w/ypwZR3KsaKFWMX6M=

DrDrCat commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8WWcE8TxgsdUNYdXQQVjoogpbY8gZWWTwU "cfp-2106-10-yes" H5OlfiQObkqwtGmJfD+LeRK0z22hScS0rJtZUDnd/juRJkWxJDcnF3KMElA3PuRutsDobXHswQExsy2yyz/4oEM=

corneliakrause commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8PeJtanEpGaxYctwJcX4t1HtH42UvXs9Go "cfp-2106-10-no" H8QwcmPTQD1wtk8LSKvy/h0bvinNwqvt3fJL0sG2oFD2VCyHADjqxs1u7lPW0pSO31FEIECS7E+3ReL35ZTbf6k=

Nebley commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8Qcpm3NwpwSBnyD8xzKwppe4upZ4RFYpQo "cfp-2106-10-yes" IInPlVsKl2Yd++3etuB6gBB//pMNj+uOBITPsBnORI5XWdLUx1iaiHtm2Sp7eJAZd1AMQN5J2sMeojhSW4UrNPg=

Hr-Mueller commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8bn66sXka8VkLTsRLRpTDogrrEjvUHXyAN "cfp-2106-10-yes" H/BWLN820uVR7HtVZI97r+Ck1oLa2B5S3EGfpITHAvRETwk1wVJh90d21t+dkDAAZA0qDn11ii8wzHjGfEqmVnM=

RHe-Crypto commented 3 years ago

$ defi-cli signmessage 8Rucfgd7MkdBz6e23jTMNxLStUPjAvKQSk "cfp-2106-10-yes" Hxddfq7CWDzbiHroVchPHSaYodCsvyb8Q7nWAsrNU3qQXq4BAO0UJhFfbKgQvQgh363OL TSmxGslCjXaAVqSikc= $ defi-cli signmessage 8JEQpJvcU8jmSG1wdTG68cckuVu16T2rq1 "cfp-2106-10-yes" IBukkkf8WVAnpJG7sEGr3rwMpFpIOCV2otpPws+SGJHjUKxIlE2vl6GRCyjRPvmMw0RZPOrq X7ajj4A5Ilr949g=

Mario5988 commented 3 years ago

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UserMaxL commented 3 years ago

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rainbowbumblebee commented 3 years ago

Explainer: This is an interesting project, however at this stage I am voting no, simply because I am doubting that this is possible to get up as a functional service (regulatory, execution) and for that reason to me that would then be sunk costs. If you manage to get this up and running live, and you resubmit, then I vote yes.

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RobinTorque commented 3 years ago

Explainer: This is an interesting project, however at this stage I am voting no, simply because I am doubting that this is possible to get up as a functional service (regulatory, execution) and for that reason to me that would then be sunk costs. If you manage to get this up and running live, and you resubmit, then I vote yes.

@rainbowbumblebee

Hi rainbowbumblebee There seems to be a misunderstanding here. We will not distribute funds to the project if we do not launch the service. The paid out 15k DFI will not be touched until we have reached our goals. If we abandon our project because it was not possible to reach the goals, then the 15k DFI will be paid back to the CFP fund. This I promise.

Our CFP is performance based. We will not claim any money if we cannot launch the service. We promise to perform first.

rainbowbumblebee commented 3 years ago

Explainer: This is an interesting project, however at this stage I am voting no, simply because I am doubting that this is possible to get up as a functional service (regulatory, execution) and for that reason to me that would then be sunk costs. If you manage to get this up and running live, and you resubmit, then I vote yes.

@rainbowbumblebee

Hi rainbowbumblebee There seems to be a misunderstanding here. We will not distribute funds to the project if we do not launch the service. The paid out 15k DFI will not be touched until we have reached our goals. If we abandon our project because it was not possible to reach the goals, then the 15k DFI will be paid back to the CFP fund. This I promise.

Our CFP is performance based. We will not claim any money if we cannot launch the service. We promise to perform first.

Hey Robin, thanks for the explanation. I feel better than a promise that you won't use the funds or return them, is getting the service live and working over a period of time first (even if its live personally my concern is if you can keep it running due to f.ex. regulatory issues), and then ask for a community funding since you are not planning to use the funds anyways before that. Then my opinion would change to a definite yes. It's a great idea, my hesitation is on the executional ability and hence the sunk cost probability that comes with it.

RobinTorque commented 3 years ago

Hey Robin, thanks for the explanation. I feel better than a promise that you won't use the funds or return them, is getting the service live and working over a period of time first (even if its live personally my concern is if you can keep it running due to f.ex. regulatory issues), and then ask for a community funding since you are not planning to use the funds anyways before that. Then my opinion would change to a definite yes. It's a great idea, my hesitation is on the executional ability and hence the sunk cost probability that comes with it.

Behind this CFP is a large team that invests a lot of time and energy for the success of the project and the success of DeFiChain.

All these people know that it can fail, and yet they work with great motivation and invest their valuable time. This is the spirit we need. Only this way we can become more successful.

Why do you vote no? We invest much more time and money than you do. We have much more to lose if things go wrong.

It is not good for the motivation of the team to refuse this project. If you know me, you know how much I have done for DeFiChain and how motivated I am. If you don't know me, then ask other people about me who do.

We didn't write this CFP to get 15k DFI. We wanted a signal from the masternodes that they like our idea. We need a motivated team to achieve our goals.

What signal will it give to the team if the CFP fails because someone is afraid some money might be lost? We have invested much more money and time.

DFI-321 commented 3 years ago

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