DefenderOfBasic
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3 months ago 1
the first thing I saw was Balaj praising the chevron decision
Technology is about to accelerate. Because Chevron deference is over. And regulators can't just make up laws anymore. So, countless new startups just became feasible.
this sounds like a good thing! I think Balaj represents the opinion of a lot of people who are [ big tech / free market / corporate / founders / VC's etc ]. So this tells me this is probably something that benefits at least that group.
Current understanding
⚖️ Chevron decision meant agencies like EPA can make their own laws (fast) without having to wait for congress to pass a law (slow). This change means congress now has to pass laws to regulate stuff ✅ it's a good thing because it means less regulation, more companies can do stuff
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then a friend said, oh, I heard this was a bad thing! the supreme court now has way more power than before. From "We Just Witnessed the Biggest Supreme Court Power Grab Since 1803"
this article has very strong language, so that tells us that it has a political stance/bias. it is NOT just trying to inform us of what the decisions, it is trying to tell us, this is a very very bad thing:
But repudiating democracy to expand its own power is exactly what the Supreme Court did today in its ruling
ok, I honestly don't know what to think here. The text of the article is a bit dense for me. Now, i COULD go off and seek primary sources here and try to piece together exactly what the chevron doctrine means, its history, what effects it has had.
But this is TOO big of a task. I know I can do this, generally, but I can't do it right now.
so, I go off and check the comments. Sadly, there is on comments on this article. So I try to see if people are discussing this elsewhere. I find the author's twitter and look for a post.
Current understanding
⚖️ congress now has to make all laws, EPA etc cannot ✅ good for business because less regulation ❌ bad for democracy, because supreme court has more power now?
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here's the tweet of the author sharing his article: https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1806804730670379471
first comment I see:
Returning legislative responsibility to the Congress is not a power grab
ok, so this validates my understanding that, it's about moving the laws back to congress. This person either (1) doesn't understand how it's a power grab, like me. OR (2) they do understand and they are saying, it is NOT a power grab.
I then see this rebuttal:
What happens when a situation changes years ahead. Normally you alter the reg detail, not the entire law.
ok so that makes sense. This is one way in which this change is bad (we'll be slower at passing laws to regulate something new that is bad).
see then I get a comment like this, which is INCREDIBLY frustrating. They're going "haha look at you, you don't understand!" why can't they just explain it?? I think it is genuinely obvious to them, but not to the reader (me), why this is indeed a bad thing:
here's another one validating that it's bad because laws will be slower to pass:
It will only take decades for simple regulations to get passed. What a win for consumers.
Current understanding
⚖️ congress now has to make all laws, EPA etc cannot ✅ good for business because less regulation ❌ bad because laws will be slower to pass, so if there are bad things we want to regulate it may be harder ❌ ~bad for democracy, because supreme court has more power now?~
Inspired by Hank's video "I have biden / weed questions", where he takes a tweet he found and spends 10-15 minutes googling, reading, skimming, to make up his mind on whether it is truthful or not: https://nerdfighteria.info/v/gMwgXjYuYeY/
he pulls up a spreadsheet and starts charting out the various claims and updating his beliefs as he reads on:
I want to do a similar thing, showing my epistemic process, how I go about reading and deciding on the truth.
index of evidence
#### pro this new change - "People don’t understand how important it is that Chevron deference is dead" (OHSA unilaterally mandated COVID measures) - https://x.com/gregg_re/status/1806786881180328427 - balaj on why it's a good thing (less regulation, more startups) - https://x.com/balajis/status/1806773841395675218 #### against this new change - "We Just Witnessed the Biggest Supreme Court Power Grab Since 1803" - https://www.thenation.com/article/society/chevron-deference-supreme-court-power-grab/ - Tweet from author of above article - https://x.com/ElieNYC/status/1806804730670379471 - "Chevron now overruled" laurence tribe - https://x.com/tribelaw/status/1806695367590752295