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The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past Randomizer
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Seed C5430031 Locked? #231

Closed ghost closed 7 years ago

ghost commented 7 years ago

Hi,

First of all, let me thank you guys for bringing such a wonderful idea that is the randomizer to fruition. I'm having a ton of fun playing with it once in a while. It really flexes my muscle memory.

I'm currently playing seed C5430031 and I'm stuck not being able to progress due to lack of having the necessary items to go and defeat Agahnim.

Allow me to list my inventory so far. I have the Red Boomerang, the Ocarina, the Boots, the Magic Mirror, the Bow, the Flippers, a Mushroom (now Magic Powder), the Titan's Mitt, the Quake, the Ice Rod, 3 Bottles (blue, green, fairy but without the fairy because I died) and the Hammer due to Death Mountain Descent (DMD) glitch.

However to continue progression I would either need the Lamp or the Fire Rod -- in order to complete the second and third light world dungeons -- or the Cape -- to bypass the energy field --

I do have a theory maybe? Let's say I didn't died stupidly and I would still have a fairy in one of my bottle, I could potentially perform the Super Bunny glitch (assuming DMD first) and then I would be able to get the Lamp at Lake Hylia and that would unlock my progression to get the pendants and then the Master Sword.

Anyhow, I'm looking forward to hear your thought on that seed.

Here's the Spoiler Log:

A Link to the Past Randomizer Log
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Version: 6
Creation Date: 2016-12-07 21:55:42
Seed: C5430031

Generated Item Order
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[cave-035] Sahasrahla's Hut [center chest]................................................Bottle (Blue Potion)
[cave-021] Kakariko well [right chest row of 3]...........................................Ocarina
[dungeon-C-B1] Hyrule Castle - boomerang room.............................................Pegasus Boots
[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia [bottom left chest]...............................Magic Mirror
[cave-021] Kakariko well [center chest row of 3]..........................................Bow
[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [top left chest]................................................Flippers
Bottle Vendor.............................................................................Mushroom
Piece of Heart (Spectacle Rock)...........................................................Titan's Mitt
Piece of Heart (Pyramid)..................................................................Moon Pearl
Flute Boy.................................................................................Book of Mudora
Catfish...................................................................................Cape
Sahasrahla................................................................................Shovel
Piece of Heart (south of Haunted Grove)...................................................Hammer
Piece of Heart (Lake Hylia)...............................................................Lamp
[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [top left chest]................Bombos
[cave-009-B1] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [left chest]....................Hookshot
Piece of Heart (Dark World blacksmith pegs)...............................................Fire Rod
[dungeon-D2-B2] Swamp Palace - flooded room [left chest]..................................Quake
Witch.....................................................................................Cane of Somaria
[cave-035] Sahasrahla's Hut [left chest]..................................................Ice Rod

Light World
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[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [bottom chest]..................3 Bombs
[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [top left chest]................Bombos
[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [top left middle chest].........50 Rupees
[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [top right chest]...............Bottle (Fairy)
[cave-009-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [top right middle chest]........100 Rupees
[cave-009-B1] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [left chest]....................Hookshot
[cave-009-B1] Death Mountain - wall of caves - right cave [right chest]...................20 Rupees
[cave-012-1F] Death Mountain - wall of caves - left cave..................................20 Rupees
[cave-013] Mimic cave (from Turtle Rock)..................................................3 Bombs
[cave-016] cave under rocks west of Santuary..............................................Piece of Heart
[cave-018] Graveyard - top right grave....................................................Bottle (Bee)
[cave-021] Kakariko well [bottom chest]...................................................20 Rupees
[cave-021] Kakariko well [center chest row of 3]..........................................Bow
[cave-021] Kakariko well [left chest row of 3]............................................Piece of Heart
[cave-021] Kakariko well [right chest row of 3]...........................................Ocarina
[cave-021] Kakariko well [top chest]......................................................3 Bombs
[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [bottom left chest].............................................20 Rupees
[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [bottom right chest]............................................100 Rupees
[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [top chest].....................................................50 Rupees
[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [top left chest]................................................Flippers
[cave-022-B1] Thief's hut [top right chest]...............................................10 Arrows
[cave-026] chicken house..................................................................Ether
[cave-031] Tavern.........................................................................Piece of Heart
[cave-034] Hyrule Castle secret entrance..................................................10 Arrows
[cave-035] Sahasrahla's Hut [center chest]................................................Bottle (Blue Potion)
[cave-035] Sahasrahla's Hut [left chest]..................................................Ice Rod
[cave-035] Sahasrahla's Hut [right chest].................................................3 Bombs
[cave-040] Link's House...................................................................300 Rupees
[cave-044] Aginah's cave..................................................................5 Rupees
[cave-047] Dam............................................................................10 Arrows
[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia - generous guy....................................Piece of Heart
[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia [bottom left chest]...............................Magic Mirror
[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia [bottom right chest]..............................Piece of Heart
[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia [top left chest]..................................20 Rupees
[cave-050] cave southwest of Lake Hylia [top right chest].................................50 Rupees
[cave-051] Ice Cave.......................................................................3 Bombs
Bombos....................................................................................20 Rupees
Bottle Vendor.............................................................................Mushroom
Ether.....................................................................................Piece of Heart
Haunted Grove item........................................................................20 Rupees
Hobo......................................................................................Piece of Heart
King Zora.................................................................................Piece of Heart
Library...................................................................................50 Rupees
Mushroom..................................................................................100 Rupees
Old mountain man..........................................................................Piece of Heart
Piece of Heart (Dam)......................................................................20 Rupees
Piece of Heart (Death Mountain - floating island).........................................20 Rupees
Piece of Heart (Desert - northeast corner)................................................Piece of Heart
Piece of Heart (Desert - west side).......................................................1 Rupee
Piece of Heart (Graveyard)................................................................Piece of Heart
Piece of Heart (Lake Hylia)...............................................................Lamp
Piece of Heart (Lumberjack Tree)..........................................................20 Rupees
Piece of Heart (Maze Race)................................................................300 Rupees
Piece of Heart (south of Haunted Grove)...................................................Hammer
Piece of Heart (Spectacle Rock Cave)......................................................Piece of Heart
Piece of Heart (Spectacle Rock)...........................................................Titan's Mitt
Piece of Heart (Thieves' Forest Hideout)..................................................Piece of Heart
Piece of Heart (Zora's River).............................................................20 Rupees
Purple Chest..............................................................................Power Glove
Sahasrahla................................................................................Shovel
Sick Kid..................................................................................Magic Powder
Witch.....................................................................................Cane of Somaria

Dark World
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[cave-055] Spike cave.....................................................................10 Arrows
[cave-056] Dark World Death Mountain - cave under boulder [bottom left chest].............3 Bombs
[cave-056] Dark World Death Mountain - cave under boulder [bottom right chest]............100 Rupees
[cave-056] Dark World Death Mountain - cave under boulder [top left chest]................20 Rupees
[cave-056] Dark World Death Mountain - cave under boulder [top right chest]...............Piece of Heart
[cave-057-1F] Dark World Death Mountain - cave from top to bottom [bottom chest]..........20 Rupees
[cave-057-1F] Dark World Death Mountain - cave from top to bottom [top chest].............20 Rupees
[cave-062] C-shaped house.................................................................100 Rupees
[cave-063] doorless hut...................................................................Red Mail
[cave-071] Misery Mire west area [left chest].............................................20 Rupees
[cave-071] Misery Mire west area [right chest]............................................Bug-Catching Net
[cave-073] cave northeast of swamp palace - generous guy..................................10 Arrows
[cave-073] cave northeast of swamp palace [bottom chest]..................................3 Bombs
[cave-073] cave northeast of swamp palace [bottom middle chest]...........................3 Bombs
[cave-073] cave northeast of swamp palace [top chest].....................................3 Bombs
[cave-073] cave northeast of swamp palace [top middle chest]..............................Piece of Heart
Catfish...................................................................................Cape
Flute Boy.................................................................................Book of Mudora
Piece of Heart (Dark World - bumper cave).................................................1 Arrow
Piece of Heart (Dark World blacksmith pegs)...............................................Fire Rod
Piece of Heart (Digging Game).............................................................20 Rupees
Piece of Heart (Pyramid)..................................................................Moon Pearl
Piece of Heart (Treasure Chest Game)......................................................3 Bombs

Hyrule Castle Escape
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[dungeon-C-1F] Sanctuary..................................................................Blue Mail
[dungeon-C-B1] Escape - final basement room [left chest]..................................20 Rupees
[dungeon-C-B1] Escape - final basement room [middle chest]................................3 Bombs
[dungeon-C-B1] Escape - final basement room [right chest].................................Map
[dungeon-C-B1] Escape - first B1 room.....................................................Key
[dungeon-C-B1] Hyrule Castle - boomerang room.............................................Pegasus Boots
[dungeon-C-B1] Hyrule Castle - map room...................................................Piece of Heart
[dungeon-C-B3] Hyrule Castle - next to Zelda..............................................Red Boomerang

Eastern Palace
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[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - big ball room............................................Piece of Heart
[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - big chest................................................Map
[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - Big key..................................................300 Rupees
[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - compass room.............................................Big Key
[dungeon-L1-1F] Eastern Palace - map room.................................................Compass

Desert Palace
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[dungeon-L2-B1] Desert Palace - big chest.................................................3 Bombs
[dungeon-L2-B1] Desert Palace - Big key room..............................................Map
[dungeon-L2-B1] Desert Palace - compass room..............................................Big Key
[dungeon-L2-B1] Desert Palace - Map room..................................................Compass

Tower of Hera
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[dungeon-L3-1F] Tower of Hera - first floor...............................................Big Key
[dungeon-L3-2F] Tower of Hera - Entrance..................................................Bottle (Green Potion)
[dungeon-L3-4F] Tower of Hera - 4F [small chest]..........................................Map
[dungeon-L3-4F] Tower of Hera - big chest.................................................Compass

Hyrule Castle Tower
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[dungeon-A1-2F] Hyrule Castle Tower - 2 knife guys room...................................Key
[dungeon-A1-3F] Hyrule Castle Tower - maze room...........................................Key

Dark Palace
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[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - big chest...................................................10 Arrows
[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - big key room................................................Map
[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - compass room................................................Big Key
[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - jump room [left chest]......................................Key
[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - jump room [right chest].....................................20 Rupees
[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - maze room [bottom chest]....................................10 Arrows
[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - maze room [top chest].......................................Compass
[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - spike statue room...........................................Key
[dungeon-D1-1F] Dark Palace - statue push room............................................Key
[dungeon-D1-B1] Dark Palace - room leading to Helmasaur [left chest]......................3 Bombs
[dungeon-D1-B1] Dark Palace - room leading to Helmasaur [right chest].....................Key
[dungeon-D1-B1] Dark Palace - shooter room................................................Key
[dungeon-D1-B1] Dark Palace - turtle stalfos room.........................................Key

Swamp Palace
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[dungeon-D2-1F] Swamp Palace - first room.................................................Key
[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - big chest..................................................20 Rupees
[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - big key room...............................................Map
[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - map room...................................................20 Rupees
[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - push 4 blocks room.........................................Mirror Shield
[dungeon-D2-B1] Swamp Palace - south of hookshot room.....................................Staff of Byrna
[dungeon-D2-B2] Swamp Palace - flooded room [left chest]..................................Quake
[dungeon-D2-B2] Swamp Palace - flooded room [right chest].................................Big Key
[dungeon-D2-B2] Swamp Palace - hidden waterfall door room.................................Compass

Skull Woods
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[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - big chest...................................................Map
[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - Big Key room................................................Key
[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - Compass room................................................Key
[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - east of Fire Rod room.......................................Red Shield
[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - Entrance to part 2..........................................Compass
[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - Gibdo/Stalfos room..........................................Big Key
[dungeon-D3-B1] Skull Woods - south of Fire Rod room......................................Key

Thieves Town
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[dungeon-D4-1F] Thieves' Town - Room above boss...........................................300 Rupees
[dungeon-D4-B1] Thieves' Town - Bottom left of huge room [bottom right chest].............Big Key
[dungeon-D4-B1] Thieves' Town - Bottom left of huge room [top left chest].................Piece of Heart
[dungeon-D4-B1] Thieves' Town - Bottom right of huge room.................................Key
[dungeon-D4-B1] Thieves' Town - Top left of huge room.....................................Compass
[dungeon-D4-B2] Thieves' Town - big chest.................................................Map
[dungeon-D4-B2] Thieves' Town - next to Blind.............................................3 Bombs

Ice Palace
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[dungeon-D5-B1] Ice Palace - Big Key room.................................................Key
[dungeon-D5-B1] Ice Palace - compass room.................................................Map
[dungeon-D5-B2] Ice Palace - map room.....................................................Compass
[dungeon-D5-B3] Ice Palace - spike room...................................................Key
[dungeon-D5-B4] Ice Palace - above Blue Mail room.........................................3 Bombs
[dungeon-D5-B5] Ice Palace - b5 up staircase..............................................Big Key
[dungeon-D5-B5] Ice Palace - big chest....................................................Piece of Heart

Misery Mire
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[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - big chest...................................................Map
[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - big hub room................................................Key
[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - big key.....................................................Key
[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - compass.....................................................20 Rupees
[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - end of bridge...............................................Big Key
[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - map room....................................................Compass
[dungeon-D6-B1] Misery Mire - spike room..................................................Key

Turtle Rock
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[dungeon-D7-1F] Turtle Rock - Chain chomp room............................................Key
[dungeon-D7-1F] Turtle Rock - compass room................................................Big Key
[dungeon-D7-1F] Turtle Rock - Map room [left chest].......................................Key
[dungeon-D7-1F] Turtle Rock - Map room [right chest]......................................Key
[dungeon-D7-B1] Turtle Rock - big chest...................................................10 Arrows
[dungeon-D7-B1] Turtle Rock - big key room................................................Compass
[dungeon-D7-B1] Turtle Rock - Roller switch room..........................................Piece of Heart
[dungeon-D7-B2] Turtle Rock - Eye bridge room [bottom left chest].........................3 Bombs
[dungeon-D7-B2] Turtle Rock - Eye bridge room [bottom right chest]........................Key
[dungeon-D7-B2] Turtle Rock - Eye bridge room [top left chest]............................Map
[dungeon-D7-B2] Turtle Rock - Eye bridge room [top right chest]...........................50 Rupees

Ganon's Tower
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[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - above Armos...............................................Heart Container
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - big chest.................................................Piece of Heart
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - compass room [bottom left chest]..........................Piece of Heart
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - compass room [bottom right chest].........................Piece of Heart
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - compass room [top left chest].............................20 Rupees
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - compass room [top right chest]............................Key
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - down right staircase from entrance [left chest]...........20 Rupees
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - down right staircase from entrance [right chest]..........50 Rupees
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - east of down right staircase from entrace.................Boomerang
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - map room..................................................Key
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - north of gap room [bottom left chest].....................10 Arrows
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - north of gap room [bottom right chest]....................Key
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - north of gap room [top left chest]........................20 Rupees
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - north of gap room [top right chest].......................1 Rupee
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - north of teleport room....................................Piece of Heart
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - west of teleport room [bottom left chest].................Map
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - west of teleport room [bottom right chest]................20 Rupees
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - west of teleport room [top left chest]....................50 Rupees
[dungeon-A2-1F] Ganon's Tower - west of teleport room [top right chest]...................Compass
[dungeon-A2-6F] Ganon's Tower - before Moldorm............................................20 Rupees
[dungeon-A2-6F] Ganon's Tower - Moldorm room..............................................10 Arrows
[dungeon-A2-6F] Ganon's Tower - north of falling floor four torches [top left chest]......5 Rupees
[dungeon-A2-6F] Ganon's Tower - north of falling floor four torches [top right chest].....10 Arrows
[dungeon-A2-B1] Ganon's Tower - north of Armos room [bottom chest]........................3 Bombs
[dungeon-A2-B1] Ganon's Tower - north of Armos room [left chest]..........................Big Key
[dungeon-A2-B1] Ganon's Tower - north of Armos room [right chest].........................100 Rupees

Special Locations
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Magic Bat.................................................................................1/2 Magic
Misery Mire Required Medallion............................................................Bombos
Pyramid Bottle Item.......................................................................Bottle (Green Potion)
Turtle Rock Required Medallion............................................................Quake
Waterfall Bottle Item.....................................................................Bottle (Red Potion)
ChristosOwen commented 7 years ago

Hi!

Glad you're enjoying this so far :)

This is a broken seed due to an issue with faulty logic in the CanAccessPyramid function which incorrectly assumes you don't need the Moon Pearl to get to Pyramid if you have either Hammer+Gloves or Mitts+Flippers; which in this case means it thinks you can get the Moon Pearl by using the Kakariko warp and swimming there through the north-east part of Hyrule.

Usually no glitches are required to beat seeds and we don't use/allow them in races, but I assume you already know that and are just wondering if you can still beat this particular seed.

In which case, yes you can. To do bunny revival you need a Bottled Faerie and Flippers, which as you say, you can obtain. What you would do is DMD, walk down to where Swamp Palace is as a bunny, then walk into the deep water to the left, slowly walk in by pressing < with slight pauses between presses. Transition screens while in the deep water and then Mirror to the LW, stand still and wait to warp back, then die, and you'll revive as normal Link. The enemy there will drop bombs on you eventually. Then swim through where Ice Palace is and up to Pyramid to claim your prize (or use Hammer since you got that via DMD already).

Good luck!

ghost commented 7 years ago

Hi,

Thanks for having took the time to confirm my glitch path theory and provided a well-detailed explanation about the issue this seed has. Let me know if you guys need help for testing.

And yes you did assume correctly, called that an obsession of mine to solve puzzles like this one ;)

PS: The Bunny Revival glitch worked but it's execution is much more difficult than I remembered.