Add detention facilities to OpenStreetMaps

[equivalentideas]

Many of the detention facilities (See list of facilities featured in det logs data) are not currently recorded in Open Street Maps.

Scherger IDC for example does not have it's former status as a detention facility listed (and it's entry hasn't been updated in 5 years), see http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/415167027/#map=13/-12.6232/142.0861.

Villawood IDC is present, see http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/203046493/

Curtin IDC doesn't seem to be available.

Having this an open service like this would be very useful for Detention Logs in locating incidents and other types of data. It would also be useful to other projects. Maybe @nickevershed has some thoughts.

If anyone has any thoughts on whether OpenStreetMaps is the best place to contribute this data, or if another repository would be better, please add your thoughts.

I think it would be best to have an issue for each factility so they can be ticked off one by one, or maybe it should be a checklist kept in this issue. Thoughts appreciated.

[nickjevershed]

Not too familiar with Open Street Maps, but can't you just add these as features or places or whatever they call them?

I have rough lat/lon for detention facilities somewhere, too, if you want that

[equivalentideas]

That would be great thanks.

I was thinking that it could be cool to store that data outside of detention logs in a bigger public repo so that other services are likely to draw on it. Just wondering if there is a better place than OSM and thought you may have ideas. Inspired a bit by some of the stuff @henare & @mlandauer are talking about like Poplus, or trying to contribute to and draw on shared data more.

[mlandauer]

I think OSM would be a good place to contribute the data. Once it's contributed OSM has apis that you could use to extract the data again. This is of course assuming that there's some standard way to identify these bits of data in OSM. I would imagine there should be.

[mlandauer]

@equivalentideas there's a mailing list for Australian OSM people. I would suggest mailing the list and asking how would be the best way to identify those points so that they could be easily extracted again.

[henare]

Wikipedia (as usual) has a pretty great list that also includes geographic coordinates for many of them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_immigration_detention_facilities

We recently talked about out sourcing the maintenance of pages to Wikipedia, hence why I thought of this.

[maxious]

Worth asking on the OSM list, two things to consider: You can just make up a tag but consensus is better. The closest the wiki seems to get is a prison http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dprison which might be a bit pejorative as that also includes Gulags and Concentration Camps http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Lutz/Tag:abandoned:amenity%3Dprison Entering the data in OSM and then referencing the node id in your application is good practice (imports are tough when someone might innocently enter the same data before your application is updated and then duplicates occur).

Using wikipedia for extra content is good - that's what I've been doing with government departments and it gets your foot in the door to the semantic web via DBpedia.

[equivalentideas]

Thanks @mlandauer @henare @maxious These are great ideas. I like the idea of putting the coordinates into OSM and then making sure those are matched up to the wikipedia ones, and then sourcing additional content from there where I can.

I'd say detention facilities do meet the definition sourced for the prison tag:

A prison,[3] gaol or jail[4] is a facility in which inmates are forcibly confined and denied a variety of freedoms under the authority of the state as a form of punishment.

But it also makes sense for immigration detention to be it's own category of building.

[nickjevershed]

Here's the lat/lon data, have just stuck in in a gist as I don't really know where you'd want it in the detentionlogs repo

[equivalentideas]

Thanks man :) much appreciated.

[equivalentideas]

@henare has just made a GeoJSON version https://gist.github.com/henare/00c0aabcd5c6add0bd16