Start Menu Settings Again (#145)

LiBOSS-CZ commented 5 years ago

I am facing issue #145 again on fresh Windows 10 Pro CZ 1809 with all updates 17763.195 (latest ISO from MS). Script version 3.4/3.5. Same issue. I have also tried to reenable SharedExperiences without success. My preset below.

Win10-my.txt

Disassembler0 commented 5 years ago

We have covered lot of ground in #145. I'm assume you're referring to that part where you apply start menu customization tweaks (HideRecentlyAddedApps, UnpinStartMenuTiles etc.) and after a while the whole start menu resets, right?

LiBOSS-CZ commented 5 years ago

I know :-( Exactly. Whole Start menu resets after a short time.

Disassembler0 commented 5 years ago

Can't replicate on clean installation of neither 17763.195 nor 17763.253.

But I saw it today one device which isn't used very often and today it was finally upgraded to 1809. Few minutes after reboot, the start menu categories and icons reset. So I went and check and sure enough there was still the old version of DisableSharedExperiences applied.

The new version of the tweak doesn't touch the registry keys used in the old version, so please check manually if you have EnableCdp and EnableMmx values set under HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System and delete them if you do.

LockTar commented 5 years ago

The new version of the tweak doesn't touch the registry keys used in the old version, so please check manually if you have EnableCdp and EnableMmx values set under HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System and delete them if you do.

Checked the registry but don't see anything under it.

LiBOSS-CZ commented 5 years ago

Same for me. I am sorry, but It was too annoying for me, so I did clean fresh install. With this new fresh install it did not behave bad like that anymore.

Disassembler0 commented 5 years ago

@LockTar: Can you please send a screenshot of your start menu to confirm that we're observing the same problem? Also, what's your Windows build number? (Run winver command to get the info if you're not sure)

LockTar commented 5 years ago

@Disassembler0 My version is: 1809 => 17763.253

To be honest. I'm not sure if the issue that I'm having is related with this project. I'm testing a Microsoft Intune setup for a company that I currently working for. Was working fine for months until I upgraded to 1809. Then I searched on Google for the problem and everything was pointing to this GitHub project. Also, every setting is the same as people are saying in this issue.

Is there a way I can test if this is used in my company?

Disassembler0 commented 5 years ago

Is there a way I can test if this is used in my company?

Wait, so you're implying that you haven't used the script and you have no knowledge if has ever been used? That may complicate things a bit. :/

The tweaks are just a bunch of registry modifications, which mostly result in the same changes as whatever group policy templates or clicking on UI controls manually would do. I don't think there is anything what would uniquely identify that this script was used.

The crucial thing to say if this is the same problem or not is the menu layout resetting. If you unpin any tiles or change anything in the start menu, are the changes automatically reverted after some time?

1) You've already checked the registry keys for EnableCdp and EnableMmx, so it's safe to rule out the same cause as in #145.

2) Please check start type of CDPUserSvc. You can do so with following snippet

    Get-Service CDPUserSvc | Select -Property StartType

If it says anything other than *Automatic*, run
```powershell
Set-Service "CDPUserSvc" -StartupType Automatic
```

and reboot. This was originally related to #170, but it revolves around the same tweak and similar type of problem.

3) I have seen the "dead" tiles with downwards pointing arrows a long time ago (December 2017) in relation with disabled or broken Cortana background service. Please run this snippet to enable all background apps (incl. Cortana) and then logout and log back in to see if there will be any difference.

    Remove-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\BackgroundAccessApplications" -Name "GlobalUserDisabled" -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
    Get-ChildItem -Path "HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\BackgroundAccessApplications" | ForEach-Object {
        Remove-ItemProperty -Path $_.PsPath -Name "Disabled" -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
        Remove-ItemProperty -Path $_.PsPath -Name "DisabledByUser" -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
    }

LockTar commented 5 years ago

Wait, so you're implying that you haven't used the script and you have no knowledge if has ever been used? That may complicate things a bit. :/

Yes that's why I'm saying that I maybe don't have the same issue. So sorry in advanced if I'm wasting your time... But everything looks like it. This company is to big to get a answer if this is used because I already tried for weeks.... But the problem started after Intune and 1809 update...

The crucial thing to say if this is the same problem or not is the menu layout resetting. If you unpin any tiles or change anything in the start menu, are the changes automatically reverted after some time?

Yes that is exactly the thing that I have. Also tried to reset the menu from a fresh profile with winaero but that was also reset after a while...

The folder Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System doesn't exist and checked "Continue experiences on this device" and is set to "Not Configured"
It says Automatic
Done and I think this worked!!! Have done this yesterday in the morning and now almost 24 hours later the tiles are still how I customized them. Also the menu items doesn't show "new" anymore when I opened that program.

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