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Discomanco / Enigmatica2Expert

The official repository and issue-tracker for the modpack Enigmatica 2: Expert for Minecraft 1.12.2
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Deep Mob Learning? #38

Open Discomanco opened 4 years ago

Discomanco commented 4 years ago

Is there a place for Deep Mob Learning, for lategame mob farms?

merlerm commented 4 years ago

Here's my two cents on this (am I late? lol): I'd definitively add either woot or DML. While I'm usually on the woot side, my biggest issue with DML is how cheap it is and how it feels like you "didn't earn" your mob farms. With proper gating, I'd be all in for DML over woot, since it's far less tedious. Proper gating will be the main issue though, since it's so powerful it should be pretty much relegated to the endgame, but it risks becoming another dimension builder. Also, the modules themselves could be gated instead of the machine, so that only the "good" ones are gated to the endgame. My biggest issue with it would be that when Mystical Agriculture exists, there really isn't much DML can do that doesn't have seeds already (dragon hearts come to mind). Woot on the other hand, while being muuuuuch more tedious to manage for players, could do some interesting stuff and provide drops DML or MA can't manage (in addition of having Blood Magic support).

In the end? I'm not too sure, but I hope that provides some ideas. I did add woot in the past to an e2e server while we were nearing endgame to try and reduce lag from mobfarms, and i'd say it went pretty good. But I know woot is very annoying in general, and DML seems like a better option

Krutoy242 commented 4 years ago

I have several suggestions about DeepMobLearning.

Machine case can be made from black iron. And, trims on block looks as they belongs here

Simulation chamber requires TE machine (emerald gears can be made only in TE). Also Quartzburnt - unused in crafts ExUt2 item

Loot Fabricator gated harder and requires titanium-iridium sheets. Its important i think, because Prestine Matter throws out interesting mechannics from other mods, like Wither Skeleton farms.

Armor give creative flight, so it should be gated with something high-tech. If Endergy added, it can be melodyc armor set

And lastly, cross-level mulations of matter should be desibled (Overworld -> Hellish -> Extraterrestial)

AmyMialee commented 3 years ago

Personally yea I think woot is quite an ugly and annoying mod, and DML could be a better option if it's gated well.