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-ཌ་ and -ཊ་ replacement rule #8

Closed fxerhard closed 9 months ago

fxerhard commented 9 months ago

final -ཌ་ and -ཊ་ should be replaced by -གས་

exceptions are few but possible, e.g. ཊ་ཀ་ཤོ་བྷོ་, པཊ་ཊི་, or ཌ་མ་རུ་

ykyogoku commented 9 months ago

I would define exceptions in the following way:

fxerhard commented 9 months ago

Yuki, remember we will most likely have no TABs in the texts!Xaver ErhardSent from my phone-----------------------------------Dr. Franz Xaver ErhardUniversität LeipzigInstitut für Indologie und ZentralasienwissenschaftenProjekt: Divergent Discourses (DFG/AHRC)Internes PF: 13250104081 LeipzigGermany+49 341 97 37147+49 179 7010969http://uni-leipzig.academia.edu/XaverErhardOn 25. Jan 2024, at 13:33, ykyogoku @.***> wrote: I would define exceptions in the following way:

If ཌ་ or ཊ་ appears immediately after tsheg (་) or a tab (\t), which separates sentences, it is not replaced.

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ykyogoku commented 9 months ago

I could not find ཊ་ཀ་ཤོ་བྷོ་ and པཊ་ཊི in the following online dictionaries:

I put the following lines in table1:

and in table3:

With the current implement, པཊ་ཊི would be replaced by པགས་ཊི་. I will tackle this problem again after the tab-missing issue is fixed.

fxerhard commented 9 months ago

For these an similar terms pls see at https://dictionary.christian-steinert.de/#%7B%22activeTerm%22%3A%22Ta%20ka%20sho%20bho%22%2C%22lang%22%3A%22tib%22%2C%22inputLang%22%3A%22tib%22%2C%22currentListTerm%22%3A%22paT%22%2C%22forceLeftSideVisible%22%3Afalse%2C%22offset%22%3A0%7D AndTibetan-English Dictionarydictionary.christian-steinert.deXaver ErhardSent from my phone-----------------------------------Dr. Franz Xaver ErhardUniversität LeipzigInstitut für Indologie und ZentralasienwissenschaftenProjekt: Divergent Discourses (DFG/AHRC)Internes PF: 13250104081 LeipzigGermany+49 341 97 37147+49 179 7010969http://uni-leipzig.academia.edu/XaverErhardOn 28. Jan 2024, at 18:18, ykyogoku @.***> wrote:ཊ་ཀ་ཤོ་བྷོ་

ykyogoku commented 9 months ago

The optimal approach would be to take up all exceptions, such as ཌ་མ་རུ་, for which the replacement should not occur, if there are few.

fxerhard commented 9 months ago

I agree, as I see it, there are only very few exceptions with -ཌ or -ཊ with preceding letters, that is as final consonants. ཌ་མ་ར་ is in the beginning of a syllable and པཎྜིཏ is a stack (or perhaps written as པཎ་ཊི་ཏ?)

ykyogoku commented 9 months ago

ཌ as subscript, as in པཎྜིཏ, is treated differently from the normal form or superscript of ཌ. And it is placed in the middle of the word/syllable, so the replacement does not take place in པཎྜིཏ.

Are there more exceptions other than the following?

(?:ཊ་ཀ་ཤོ་བྷོ་|ཊ་རན་རྩ་ནད་|ཊ་སྡེ་|པཊ་ཊི་|ཌ་མ་རུ་)

If there are no more exceptions, I close this issue.

fxerhard commented 9 months ago

I think this is fine, but I am not sure if we caught all exceptions. Maybe leave this open for the time being until we are sure.

ykyogoku commented 9 months ago

Ok, I leave it open.

Tables look like that --- Table1:

I don't have to consider exceptional cases where they are combined with shad, since there is no exceptional word ending with them.

Table3: