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modifications and improvements for 0CC-FamiTracker (based on j0CC-FamiTracker 0.6.3)
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Are channels other than apu1 and apu2 being quiet in multichip modules intended? #213

Closed trashbinenthusiast closed 1 year ago

trashbinenthusiast commented 1 year ago

This is what i have to do to make all channels sound even: https://i.imgur.com/8GHmxRn.png This was the problem when 0.5.0.0 came out, and it still is, hardware mixing box doesn't fix anything. It has been reported before on FT discord, and multiple people have said the same as well. 0.4.0.1 does not have this problem.

N-SPC700 commented 1 year ago

It's been a while. But I recall the "quieting" of multiple channels with multiple chips is automatically done to prevent clipping. I personally don't agree with the feature, and it makes mixing absolutely irritating, but if I recall correctly, that's why it was done.

Gumball2415 commented 1 year ago

the channels are attenuated depending on the amount of chips enabled. this behavior has been unchanged since FT 0.4.6

Gumball2415 commented 1 year ago

can you provide .wav exports for comparison? also, what build are you using?

trashbinenthusiast commented 1 year ago

can you provide .wav exports for comparison? also, what build are you using?

I've used 0cc 0.3.15.3 in the past and I've been using Dn-FT 0.4.0.1 for a while. They do not have this problem. Also, i was the first user to point this out many months ago on ft discord, but nothing has changed since then at all. Perhaps i'll stick to 0.4.0.1 then.

trashbinenthusiast commented 1 year ago

It's been a while. But I recall the "quieting" of multiple channels with multiple chips is automatically done to prevent clipping. I personally don't agree with the feature, and it makes mixing absolutely irritating, but if I recall correctly, that's why it was done.

I really don't get it. Why even have multichip support if you cripple that functionality by doing that? There should be a togglable option instead of forcing it like that. I'm still using 0.4.0.1 because of it.

Gumball2415 commented 1 year ago

this functionality is as old as multichip itself, if you don't like it, go back to vanilla

nyanpasu64 commented 1 year ago

Can you supply a test module, which sounds different in different versions of Dn?

trashbinenthusiast commented 1 year ago

this functionality is as old as multichip itself, if you don't like it, go back to vanilla

I've been using famitracker for more than 10 years, and not at a single point ever had i encountered such extreme case of channel imbalance until the last version of Dn-FT. Yes, the channels do get quieter the more chips you add, but it's the first time I'm seeing 2a03 being so much louder than the rest. It seems you either misunderstand me or just don't care about this issue at all.

trashbinenthusiast commented 1 year ago

Can you supply a test module, which sounds different in different versions of Dn?

Literally every single vrc6 + mmc5 module i have.

trashbinenthusiast commented 1 year ago

I will continue this discussion on discord, it's easier to post examples in it.