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EDDI v.3.3.6 closes every 5 minutes (Galnet monitor bugged) #1216

Closed from9to5 closed 5 years ago

from9to5 commented 5 years ago

EDDI v.3.3.6 From today on EDDI closes every 5 minutes if it is open in parallel with Elite Dangerous Horizons 64-Bit v.3.3.05. Processor is AMD Ryzen 7 1800X with 32GB RAM Windows 10 Pro, 1809, build 17763.316

If I close Elite, EDDI won´t close. 5 Days ago everything was fine, no new installations in time between.

Could anyone help?

from9to5

clinkingdog commented 5 years ago

I wonder if this is the same as #1213

richardbuckle commented 5 years ago

Known issue because the GalNet RSS feed was taken down without notice. Please disable the GalNet monitor until a replacement feed is identified.

incryptx commented 5 years ago

Guess I was late in tracking down the issue. Sorry for a duplicate bug report, but it did verify the cause.

from9to5 commented 5 years ago

Thank you for helping me! I deactivated the Galnet and EDDI stays on!

Am 2. März 2019, 23:44, um 23:44, Richard Buckle notifications@github.com schrieb:

Known issue because the GalNet RSS feed was taken down without notice. Please disable the GalNet monitor until a replacement feed is identified.

-- You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/EDCD/EDDI/issues/1216#issuecomment-468967686

incryptx commented 5 years ago

I don't suppose we could take advantage of this failure in the fact that the Galnet feed is down and a code re-write for EDDI may be required. Radio SideWinder and other web-based radio feeds are available and EDDI could take advantage of these as it does Galnet, in the fact that they are just audio feeds from web-based sites. So, where EDDI has a checkbox to monitor Galnet, could we have a few more checkboxes to monitor Radio Sidewinder and a few other user popular audio feeds and rename the tab from "Galnet Monitor" to "Audio Stream Monitor"?

Just a thought, since you need to fix the Galnet stream anyway?

Tkael commented 5 years ago

FDev have identified a new Galnet feed, but the results are a mixture of languages (in my case, English titles and German content) with no ability to select a desired language: http://elitedangerous-website-backend-production.elitedangerous.com/galnet.rss untitled

Tkael commented 5 years ago

This is json format community goals (not full Galnet, unfortunately), available in various languages: https://elitedangerous-website-backend-production.elitedangerous.com/api/initiatives/list?_format=json&lang=de

richardbuckle commented 5 years ago

Worked around in 3.3.7-b1

incryptx commented 5 years ago

It appears that all the Galnet RSS feeds are down, except for in-game without EDDI Galnet Monitor checked. I still receive Galnet news through VA's voice command, "play galnet".

There is also a Galnet API which may be worth looking at.

https://github.com/charlesportwoodii/galnet-api

Tkael commented 5 years ago

That Galnet API, unfortunately, sources data from the same feed we were using and which disappeared several days ago. As such, it looks like it is no longer functional.

incryptx commented 5 years ago

Yea, I found that to be correct. The feed in the game seems to work. Where is that coming from?

incryptx commented 5 years ago

My point here is that Galnet is duplicated in EDDI, and granted the feed disappeared causing the failure, but there are other sources (feeds, non-RSS) which also report Galnet news in the form of radio station feeds specific to Elite, which users can use and enjoy, whether in the bubble or in the black. Galnet news is only relevent to those in the bubble. Radio stations (which report Galnet news) are useful to those in the black, giving both music and Galnet News. So, in conclusion, I think (as Richard points out) you may not have the code bandwidth to include radio stations in the Galnet Monitor, but you are spending what seems to be more time on finding a feed that does not exist now, and may come up later, as opposed to pushing a release which may not fix Galnet at the moment, but would include alternate audio streams, containing both Galnet news, and music. The music/galnet bits can be used in a release now, while you wait for the appropriate Galnet.rss to come up later. At least it's not 100% broke (due to a specific feed) but 50% broke, as you (the user) can get the news and music from an alternate (non-galnet-specific) audio stream. The radio stations offering galnet news are working now, and rarely disappear. Use them now and when galnet new comes back, we can check that box again. So, rename Galnet Monitor to Audio Monitor, include checkboxes for Radio Sidewinder, Hutton Radio, and Galnet News, and when it's back up or located, let us users know, and we can check that box. EDDI's Galnet monitor in it's pure form is somewhat redundant and a duplication of what is available in-game through VA. Make your Galnet Monitor (Audio Monitor) more useful and less redundant, offering music and radio services not available in game, or anywhere else for that matter.

So, time wise, are you just down now, waiting for FDev to bring up the Galnet feed, or to locate another which does not exist in a form you need now?

To me, Galnet Monitor in EDDI is never checked, since I get it from VA in a form I can control with voice commands. Is your presentation useful to me, no. Would it be useful if it offered radio or an ability to play MY music, hell yes. Why? Because I can't get this anywhere else. Would I use EDDI's implementation or Elite/VA's implementation of Galnet? Probably VA, since I would have to have VA installed before I could use a VA plug-in, and VA does this without the EDDI plugin.

Reports have it that Galnet News and Community Goals are going to be revamped in the next release to become more important to the game overall. Galnet feeds are certainly going to gyrate over this period, until the 2020 release date. Elite specific Radio and user played music options (once coded) will require little or no code update or feed changes. (with respect to code time or bug tracking and code maintenance).

Be well.

Tkael commented 5 years ago

As already stated, internet radio would need to work in ways that differ significantly from the current Galnet monitor (which parses an xml rss feed and sorts articles into news categories based on content). What you're asking for is an entirely new feature, not an adaptation of this currently broken feature. Consequently, it's best to continue this discussion in #1222 and close this issue as being as resolved as possible until new Galnet RSS feeds come online.

rodan123 commented 5 years ago

Mocked up some changes to utilize the working Galnet feed http://elitedangerous-website-backend-production.elitedangerous.com/galnet.rss and restore EDDI galnet functionality. #1246 I can appreciate @incryptx 's suggestions, but there are some of us that make use of the EDDI galnet feed and VA to manipulate the news articles beyond what is provided in-game or via 3rd party sources.

richardbuckle commented 5 years ago

Fixed by #1246.