We had a discussion in the user community of how other ESPD services are being accepted by users. The result is that our service is seen a the legitimate one...
This is the discussion we had
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: the challenge is that the users expect everything to be like EC's service
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: they don't grasp the idea of implementing a data model :-)
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: they are afraid not to be in compliance
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: some use it
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: I have raised this problem on the CEF call
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: I have the same problem with Finnish users - the think the commision ESPD service is "more" legitimate
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: Visma in Sweden have same challenge
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: YES!
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: :-)
Anne Katrine Mortensen: Good idea writing about Mercell aso. But wouldn´t that be advertising on behalf of few specific private firms?
Anne Katrine Mortensen: OK.
Jose Luis Cueva - Spain: OK
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: It is not a matter of companies being specifically highlighted, Anne, I agree with that. But the public authirities in the member states do not provide proper information about the ESPD and there is currently a lot of "CMA" actions that DO NOT make life easier for the Eos..
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: agree
Anne Katrine Mortensen: But good idea to write that the EU ESPD-site is not the only possibillity.
Anne Katrine Mortensen: Good idea.
Jose Luis Cueva - Spain: "period" type
Anne Katrine Mortensen: Good idea
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: you need to the correct the bug
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: before
Anne Katrine Mortensen: Good.
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: I can add any evidences
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: No I cannot add evidences
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: How are the language corrections? have you translated missing parts
Anne Katrine Mortensen: In the Danish version on page one there is text in English.
SELLITTO Giampaolo IT: Directive provides that "art 57. 3. Member States may provide for a derogation from themandatory exclusion provided for in paragraphs 1 and 2, onan exceptional basis, for overriding reasons relating to thepublic interest such as public health or protection of theenvironment."... or when it is disproportioned ... so we can have different value for lots and what is proportioned in one lot is disproportioned for another
SELLITTO Giampaolo IT: so we can have different exclusion vcriteria
SELLITTO Giampaolo IT: for fdifferent lots
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: Some exclusion grounds are vlountary
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: Some exclusion grounds are voluntary already is ESPD now.
Jose Luis Cueva - Spain: thanks, bye
Hannah Stephens: thank you
Laura Martin/Steve Patterson/Scottish Government: Bye
We had a discussion in the user community of how other ESPD services are being accepted by users. The result is that our service is seen a the legitimate one...
This is the discussion we had Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: the challenge is that the users expect everything to be like EC's service
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: they don't grasp the idea of implementing a data model :-)
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: they are afraid not to be in compliance
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: some use it
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: I have raised this problem on the CEF call
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: I have the same problem with Finnish users - the think the commision ESPD service is "more" legitimate
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: Visma in Sweden have same challenge
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: YES!
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: :-)
Anne Katrine Mortensen: Good idea writing about Mercell aso. But wouldn´t that be advertising on behalf of few specific private firms?
Anne Katrine Mortensen: OK.
Jose Luis Cueva - Spain: OK
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: It is not a matter of companies being specifically highlighted, Anne, I agree with that. But the public authirities in the member states do not provide proper information about the ESPD and there is currently a lot of "CMA" actions that DO NOT make life easier for the Eos..
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: agree
Anne Katrine Mortensen: But good idea to write that the EU ESPD-site is not the only possibillity.
Anne Katrine Mortensen: Good idea.
Jose Luis Cueva - Spain: "period" type
Anne Katrine Mortensen: Good idea
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: you need to the correct the bug
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: before
Anne Katrine Mortensen: Good.
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: I can add any evidences
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: No I cannot add evidences
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: How are the language corrections? have you translated missing parts
Anne Katrine Mortensen: In the Danish version on page one there is text in English.
SELLITTO Giampaolo IT: Directive provides that "art 57. 3. Member States may provide for a derogation from themandatory exclusion provided for in paragraphs 1 and 2, onan exceptional basis, for overriding reasons relating to thepublic interest such as public health or protection of theenvironment."... or when it is disproportioned ... so we can have different value for lots and what is proportioned in one lot is disproportioned for another
SELLITTO Giampaolo IT: so we can have different exclusion vcriteria
SELLITTO Giampaolo IT: for fdifferent lots
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: Some exclusion grounds are vlountary
Timo Rantanen / Hansel / Finland: Some exclusion grounds are voluntary already is ESPD now.
Jose Luis Cueva - Spain: thanks, bye
Hannah Stephens: thank you
Laura Martin/Steve Patterson/Scottish Government: Bye
Ulf Lotzmnn (UKL): thanks, bye
SELLITTO Giampaolo IT: bye
Michaël De Winne / e-Proc Belgium: bye
Marit Lysemose Thomsen, Mercell: thnx bye