[Feature] Re-enable mcMMO double smelt ability

[ghost]

Why exactly was double smelt taken away?

Mining is tedious, even with haste. 16g to claim a chunk, that's a whole mining trip right there for most people. Most people don't want to go keep constantly going on mining trips to just claim 1 chunk of land.

You can't just outright remove double smelt. Bring it back, por favor.

[lucasw2011]

As i’ve Said i’ve Been loyal to emc but I didn’t donate money when it was emc classic just so that server could be killed for the social science experiment that the new server is becoming lol I mean I could just go make my own server or find a new one

[Arganog]

IF town claims and nations need to become more valuable, then I believe that raising towny prices would be more effective than disabling Double Smelt

However, a new player that joins automatically has zero percent double smelt... If towny prices are increased, then that certainly makes it more difficult for them to create their initial town. Having Double Smelt would mean more gold in the hands of established players and towns.

[Arganog]

I think these are the main three options that could result from this issue:

Option 1) Enable Double Smelt, Raise Towny Prices

Option 2) Enable Double Smelt, Leave Towny Prices the same

Option 3) Disable Double Smelt, Leave Towny Prices the same

What are the Pros and Cons of these potential options?

[MineHero43]

A return to the status quo before the disability of double smelt is all we’re asking for. Raising towny prices is never a good option, that will only make the issue worse and as you said it will have a negative effect for new players.

Obviously disabling double smelt and leaving prices the same isn’t practical either, I think enough arguments above support this claim.

However I do like what Fix suggested, re enable double smelt but nerf it so that a little extra grinding is needed to get that sweet 100%

I think that’s a fair balance and a win win. The leadership will get their extra grinding from the players and players will be pleased to have the ability to double smelt back.

[lemurbeard]

What if it gets capped to only 1.5x smelt at max level?

[Pengun78]

Thats easy talking if you have 100 % already

[MineHero43]

No it would mean even I have to grind more to regain 100%

[Pengun78]

karl please add it back gamer

[lemurbeard]

I meant that when smelting is 1000, instead of double smelt you get 1.5x smelt

[MineHero43]

That would screw over everyone who has grinded for the purpose of getting 2x smelt

[lemurbeard]

Would it though? 50% is still significantly better than 0%.

[MineHero43]

People need to realise that at the end of the day, it should not be about what the leadership want, it’s about what the players want.

Think of emc as a business, we’re the costumers. The number one rule of a business is that the costumers are always right, their opinions matter the most.

We want 100% double smelt, it’s what we grinded for. Both 50% and 0% screw us all over one way or another.

[ghost]

People need to realise that at the end of the day, it should not be about what the leadership want, it’s about what the players want.

Think of emc as a business, we’re the costumers. The number one rule of a business is that the costumers are always right, their opinions matter the most.

We want 100% double smelt, it’s what we grinded for. Both 50% and 0% screw us all over one way or another.

KarlOfDuty Bans MineHero43 For "My Server, Not Yours"

[CorgiPaws]

This is also something to remember, as humans the space we are given is the space we will fill, in this case a big shiny new map, bam it is already quite packed, and in some areas there are already far less to no ores left. People who thought that making the map larger would solve overpopulation and map destruction were wrong, it happens. Irl if a highway is widened it generally does not take much time for traffic to once again clog it. A bigger map? Great, nice but in the end we will always end up back where we started. Raising the prices would just make those that grind longer and harder have the advantage, while casuals or just people who build on the side might have to put in too much time. Some days I really don't think I'm staying here for the server, and rather only for the community. If all of this is an issue, although it may be a bit late for this, we could have used a non gold based currency?

[benbenyatta]

Re-enable double smelt or I throw 1 gold into lava.

[ghost]

This is also something to remember, as humans the space we are given is the space we will fill, in this case a big shiny new map, bam it is already quite packed, and in some areas there are already far less to no ores left. People who thought that making the map larger would solve overpopulation and map destruction were wrong, it happens. Irl if a highway is widened it generally does not take much time for traffic to once again clog it. A bigger map? Great, nice but in the end we will always end up back where we started. Raising the prices would just make those that grind longer and harder have the advantage, while casuals or just people who build on the side might have to put in too much time. Some days I really don't think I'm staying here for the server, and rather only for the community. If all of this is an issue, although it may be a bit late for this, we could have used a non gold based currency?

👌

Re-enable double smelt or I throw 1 gold into lava.

Bad, I'll take it if you don't want it. Gotta supplement my income somehow, especially with a lack of double smelt.

[Pengun78]

there are so many good arguments just re-enable it already

[benbenyatta]

Can we atleast get a statement about this? Fix talked about a possibility of it being re-enabled but in a nerfed form. Me and my friends are keeping on so many gold ores because we don't know if we should smelt it or wait for double-smelt again

[KarlOfDuty]

We have not had a scheduled maintenance since the economy issues so we have not looked into this issue yet.

[FutureLemon]

We have not had a scheduled maintenance since the economy issues so we have not looked into this issue yet.

Then schedule one!

[KarlOfDuty]

We will work on the server when we have time for it, we have other stuff to do.

[KarlOfDuty]

Done.

[KarlOfDuty]

@Palestina0007 Behave yourself if you want to post here. This isn't the in-game chat.

[32Gold]

This thread shouldn’t be closed. Obviously Karl didn’t read this, since the original poster MSatrokrm was talking about re-enabling double smelt for GOLD

[KarlOfDuty]

You have seen the rest of this thread, criticism is fine. Your behaviour was over the line though.

[lucasw2011]

Lol I kinda lost interest in playing

[ghost]

I'm loosing the will to live on the server. Everything is just grind grind grind :/

[MineHero43]

I'm loosing the will to live on the server. Everything is just grind grind grind :/

[ghost]

Convient that they get all the donations then fuck up the server isn't it?

[SpookyScoops]

The server isn't fucked up because of double smelt/drop gold being disabled. There's a reason why they allow using the nation spawns of allied nations.

You want to make gold? Then how about you get out of your mine shaft and start participating with the player base. Make shops and sell shit. It's not hard, you just have to stop being a cave troll and get out into the sunlight. I haven't mined for gold in weeks, and yet I still have gold for claims etc.

If anything, disabling double smelt/drop gold allows for more professions. Want to be a farmer? Sell bulk food/wheat. Want to be a rancher? Sell wool and leather. Want to be a miner still? Sell me your emeralds. I need emeralds... please help. You can also do jobs for people etc. etc. etc. There's more to minecraft than mining is what I'm trying to say.

[ghost]

And it is damn hard to make money just via trading.

[SpookyScoops]

guess you're just bad at it smh.

[ghost]

No i just can not compete with the stupidly low prices that players drop items down to. That is what kills trading. People with no sense of how to make Money

[ghost]

Bring Back the Ikea Monopoly, at least Arg knew what he was doing.