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Manuscript and new analysis files for Vinod et al., 2022, New Phytologist
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Johnson et al. reference #110

Closed teixeirak closed 2 years ago

teixeirak commented 2 years ago

@NidhiVinod and @eoway ,

We cite Johnson et al. 2020 in a few places, but this is actually an AGU abstract (https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2020AGUFMB088...03J/abstract) and can't be cited. I tried searching for a publication but didn't find one-- perhaps I'm missing one? Or perhaps there's one on the way? We need to either get a paper citation or remove this content.

teixeirak commented 2 years ago

Also, we cite this as follows: "One of the few remote sensing studies combining drone lidar and thermal data found strong vertical gradients in midday plant temperature with ~5$^{\circ}$C cooler temperatures lower in the vertical profile of a dense forest stand in the sub-alpine Eastern Swiss Alps [@websterThreedimensionalThermalCharacterization2018]. However, the opposite trend was observed for a lone tree surrounded by grass in the same area, with cooler temperatures at the top of the tree crown, indicating a strong influence of closed-canopy shading on vertical temperature gradients [@johnstonWhatLiesVertical2020]. "

But the cited Johnson study is in CA, so something is wrong here.

eoway commented 2 years ago

The Johnston et al paper is one by Miriam Johnston that was under revision at the time of our submission.

@Nidhi Vinod @.***> can you check with Miriam for the citation. We may need to cite that as in press...?

As for the wording, the study was in California, so that should be changed to something like the following:

"One of the few remote sensing studies combining drone lidar and thermal data found strong vertical gradients in midday plant temperature with ~5$^{\circ}$C cooler temperatures lower in the vertical profile of a dense forest stand in the sub-alpine Eastern Swiss Alps @.. However, the opposite trend was observed for a lone tree surrounded by grass in a California open oak woodland, with cooler temperatures at the top of the tree crown, indicating a strong influence of closed-canopy shading on vertical temperature gradients @.. "

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Also, we cite this as follows: "One of the few remote sensing studies combining drone lidar and thermal data found strong vertical gradients in midday plant temperature with ~5$^{\circ}$C cooler temperatures lower in the vertical profile of a dense forest stand in the sub-alpine Eastern Swiss Alps @.. However, the opposite trend was observed for a lone tree surrounded by grass in the same area, with cooler temperatures at the top of the tree crown, indicating a strong influence of closed-canopy shading on vertical temperature gradients @.. "

But the cited Johnson study is in CA, so something is wrong here.

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teixeirak commented 2 years ago

Thanks, @eoway.

Even if this study is still in review/revision, let's just put in the latest reference and hope it's cite-able by the time we get to the proof stage. I definitely want to be able to cite it.

Also, I fixed the text on location.

eoway commented 2 years ago

Great, thanks. And agreed on wanting to be able to cite it.

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Thanks, @eoway https://github.com/eoway.

Even if this study is still in review/revision, let's just put in the latest reference and hope it's cite-able by the time we get to the proof stage. I definitely want to be able to cite it.

Also, I fixed the text on location.

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NidhiVinod commented 2 years ago

@teixeirak I emailed Miriam for the citation and check the status of the paper, I'll wait to hear back!

NidhiVinod commented 2 years ago

@teixeirak, Miriam got back to me! and updated the citation