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Manuscript and new analysis files for Vinod et al., 2022, New Phytologist
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Including a sparse forest schematic with the existing schematic #27? #45

Closed NidhiVinod closed 3 years ago

NidhiVinod commented 3 years ago

Our thoughts so far:

Teixeira, Kristina A.: In part it depends on how much info we have from sparse forests.

Sparse forests are quite interesting, and a good contrast. I keep thinking about temperature in sparser forests with this heat wave out west...

If we decide on whether it would helpful to include or not, I could make an illustration in day!

NidhiVinod commented 3 years ago

Information and ideas from DeFrenne et al. 2021

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teixeirak commented 3 years ago

The plan (from our recent discussion) is that we'll include this--or at least try.

NidhiVinod commented 3 years ago

Hanberry et al. 2020 image

NidhiVinod commented 3 years ago

Potential open forest illustration?

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teixeirak commented 3 years ago

Looks like a good start! Except (...sorry...) those trees don't look like open forest trees. For one, they should be shorter. I'd also make it more open (fewer trees) than what you have here. Look at a photo for inspiration. I'd be happy to do the painting if you don't want to.

NidhiVinod commented 3 years ago

Looks like a good start! Except (...sorry...) those trees don't look like open forest trees. For one, they should be shorter. I'd also make it more open (fewer trees) than what you have here. Look at a photo for inspiration. I'd be happy to do the painting if you don't want to.

Thank you! I don't mind making a few more attempts but if you have a painting, or are able to paint that would be so wonderful, since you definitely know how open forests look and feel like more than me (I have been to maybe one--Dolly Sods)!

teixeirak commented 3 years ago

I think of forests more like these (1- NM; 2- SOAP NEON site):

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I'm not sure exactly what forest types most of the open forest results are from. I know there's the one savanna in Australia that probably looks more like the upper photo... It would be good to match the painting to the type of forest for which we're seeing those results.

NidhiVinod commented 3 years ago

Aahh, I see, this is helpful!! I was definitely looking at Australian eucalyptus forests or something else! Okay, will try to make a similar illustration as this!

NidhiVinod commented 3 years ago

Here are a few more attempts, maybe I should include the forest floor? I'll work on the science information, if these seem like something we want to include.. open_forest savanna

teixeirak commented 3 years ago

I prefer the 2nd one.

I do wonder, though, after a comment you made in google docs-- is there enough info to include this?

NidhiVinod commented 3 years ago

I prefer the 2nd one.

I do wonder, though, after a comment you made in google docs-- is there enough info to include this? mm..the second one would be representative of mostly information from two/three papers-- Curtis et al., and Miriam Johnston's ( Elsa's student connection) study in oak savanna vertical gradient, and the first one has a little more information for biophysical, leaf traits, respiration but not T50. Do you think to include then or maybe not? I'm okay with either!

teixeirak commented 3 years ago

Just catching up. I think we've decided definitely not to include, correct?

teixeirak commented 3 years ago

Think we can close this.