Minstrel's Ring isn't checking HP% at the right time

[mlandrum22]

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I'm currently idling in 806 HP.

My Minstrel Set has 1027 HP, but 125 of it is Convert to MP gear, so I theoretically have 1152 HP, so I need < 864 HP to proc the Minstrel's ring.

If I swap using either macros or Ashitacast right before a song, my Minstrel's ring doesn't activate. If I do the same but have a <wait 1>, it does not activate

BUT

If I do a <wait 2>, I successfully cast at the increased speed.

So the calculations seem to be working correctly, they just might not be doing the calculations at the right time.

[KnowOne134]

Or a casting g time difference in ashita vs server?

[mlandrum22]

Even when I'm using purely macros and unloaded ashitacast

/equipset 13 <wait 1> /ma mages ballad

wasn't working but

/equipset 13 <wait 2> /ma mages ballad

was working.

[59blargedy]

can you give me your equip set so that i can duplicate it?

[mlandrum22]

Mithra, BRD/WHM with no hp merits

Earth Staff Bugard Strap +1 Zenith Crown Kirin's Osode Angel lyre Justice Badge Melody Earring +1 Melody Earring +1 Zenith mitts Minstrel's Ring Astral Ring Blue cape Scouter's Rope Zenith Slacks Zenith pumps

I idle in that, with 806 HP.

my equipset has

Walahra turban Bird Whistle Gold moogle belt Bard's Cannions

1027 max HP on screen, but with 140 hp->mp gear so 1167 for the calculation.

Minstrel's ring WORKS for the macro

/equipset 13 <wait 2> /ma "mages ballad"

Minstrel's ring DOES NOT work for the macro

/equipset 13 <wait 1> /ma "mages ballad"

My uneducated guess is the mp->hp gear isn't being calculated correctly until after a tic happens. I've talked to others with no mp->hp gear and they say they can equip their Minstrel set right before the song and it works.

[mlandrum22]

Thought maybe it was the gold moogle belt since that shouldn't count in the calc, but I swapped it out and added a gigant mantle and still getting the same results.

[BrentonWorkman]

I didn't know if I should make my own ticket or not. On windower I'm having the same/similar issue. (ver. 30181205_0)

• If I idle in my normal gear then equip HP+ gear in my precast the ring does not proc. I dropped my hpp to 73% just to be sure it was low enough but it's still not procing the ring. I also used an equipset with a wait of 1, still no proc. However, adding a wait of 2 was long enough to proc the ring.

Idle
        main        = "Terra's Staff",
        sub         = "Bugard Leather Strap +1",
        range       = "Traversiere +2",
        head        = "Zenith Crown", 
        neck        = "Star Necklace",  
        left_ear    = "Merman's Earring", 
        right_ear   = "Merman's Earring",
        hands       = "Magna Gauntlets", 
        body        = "Kirin's Osode", -
        left_ring   = "Minstrel's Ring", 
        right_ring  = "Ether Ring", 
        back        = "Blue Cape", 
        waist       = "Astral Rope", 
        legs        = "Zenith Slacks", 
        feet        = "Suzaku's Sune-ate"`

HP+
        head        = "Genbu's Kabuto",
        neck        = "Jeweled Collar",
        left_ear    = "Loquacious Earring",
        right_ear   = "Bloodbead Earring",
        body        = "Kirin's Osode",
        hands       = "Seiryu's Kote",        
        left_ring   = "Minstrel's Ring",
        right_ring  = "Bomb Queen Ring",
        back        = "Prism Cape",
        legs        = "Bard's Cannions", --Sha'ir Seraweels Bard's Cannions
        waist       = "Speed Belt",
        feet        = "Rostrum Pumps"

• If I sit in my hp+ gear and cast a song the ring procs.

• If I idle in hp-/hp-to-mp gear then unequip everything on precast(except the minstrel's ring) the ring procs. (hpp is at 75%)

  hp-
      ammo        = "Tiphia Sting",
      head        = "Zenith Crown",
      neck        = "Star Necklace",
      left_ear    = "Merman's Earring",
      right_ear   = "Merman's Earring",
      body        = "Black Cotehardie",
      hands       = "Errant Cuffs",
      left_ring   = "Astral Ring", 
      right_ring  = "Ether Ring",
      back        = "Blue Cape",
      waist       = "Astral Rope",
      legs        = "Zenith Slacks",
      feet        = "Rostrum Pumps" 

So my guess is that the hp+ gear isn't registered fast enough for the ring to gain the benefit.

Apologies if you guys are still working on this and I'm just pestering you.

[59blargedy]

possibly resolved this issue with minstrels at least, possibly not. testing showed it resolved, but everyone has different setups. report back/comment pls.

[mlandrum22]

Still doesn't work with my setup from above.

[boggartff11]

Chiming in here as well: My naked taru brd/whm with a single hp merit has a max hp of 900, with the following set in ashita I have 1263:

_{Raptor Strap +1} Genbu's Kabuto Goliard Saio Bloodbead Amulet Gigant Mantle Seiryu's Kote Wonder Braccae Rostrum Pumps Koenigs Belt Bomb Queen Ring Minstrel's Ring Loquac. Earring Bloodbead Earring

When I force equip this set and cast a bard song, the ring works, but when I put this set in my precast in ashita, it does not.

[boggartff11]

Additionally: I added another 20 HP to the set listed above, bringing my total to 1283 and the latent is now being triggered. I cycled pieces out of the set and found that the gigant mantle must not be incorporated into the calculation when it's used in the tag in ashitacast.

The interesting thing about it is that if you idle in the mantle or force equip it either through a macro or through forcing a set on in ashitacast prior to casting a song, the mantle DOES count towards triggering the latent. I was able to confirm this by removing my genbu's kabuto from the set, force wearing the set for 30 seconds and then casting a song. Weird!