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Serket's Rage timer is off - should be 20 mins. Was being fought for 27 minutes with no rage. #4915

Closed HitGubz closed 2 years ago

HitGubz commented 2 years ago

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Serket claimed at XX:07 killed at XX:32 with no rage. Should be 20 mins according to Era wiki.

59blargedy commented 2 years ago

since no proof provided here i went searching on my own and found varying reports of the 20 minute timers actually being 30. i honestly don't see anything definitive yet. it's clear KA and simurgh were definitely 20, but capricious cassie, listed as 20 too, was later shown to actually be 30, and there's a couple forum posts mentioning serket seeming to be closer to 30, then the wiki was updated. when there was a rage change in 2009 no timers were changed, just the manner in which the rage occurred. it's really hard to tell which is right, modern wiki listing it as 30 suggests it was always 30.

HitGubz commented 2 years ago

https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Serket?oldid=397335 (Revision as of 21:24, 14 December 2007) - This one is verified 20 mins. https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Serket?oldid=778102 (Revision as of 17:03, 29 December 2008) - This one says verification needed 30 mins. https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Rage States the following "The August 1, 2005 patch read as follows The notorious monsters listed below will slowly grow in strength after a certain amount of time has passed since being claimed: King Arthro / Simurgh / Roc / Serket / Capricious Cassie /Lord of Onzozo / Behemoth / King Behemoth / Adamantoise / Aspidochelone / Fafnir / Nidhogg."

King Arthro 20 Minutes Simurgh 20 Minutes Roc 20 Minutes Serket 20 Minutes Capricious Cassie 20 Minutes Lord of Onzozo 20 Minutes Behemoth 30 Minutes King Behemoth 60 Minutes Adamantoise 30 Minutes Aspidochelone 60 Minutes Fafnir 60 Minutes Nidhogg 60 Minutes

https://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/bestiary.html?fmob=566 (Updated: Mon Jul 13 05:37:26 2009) - 20 mins

https://gitlab.com/ffxiwings/wings/-/merge_requests/14/diffs - Wingz server made it 20 mins.

https://ffxi.gamerescape.com/wiki/Talk:Serket#Rage - some testing around 2009/2010 seems to suggest rage either begins at 20 and builds slowly or starts after 25 mins.

59blargedy commented 2 years ago

yeah the original patch note did not mention timings at all, and like i said cassie and serket were shown to be 30 minutes instead of 20 while others were proven to actually be 20 like KA and simurgh, so it looks like some people made assumptions back in the day. this isn't world ending, but im just personally uncomfortable changing it when there's so many wildly different opinions on what serket's timer actually should be. (thanks for providing more information, i appreciate it)

HitGubz commented 2 years ago

yeah the original patch note did not mention timings at all, and like i said cassie and serket were shown to be 30 minutes instead of 20 while others were proven to actually be 20 like KA and simurgh, so it looks like some people made assumptions back in the day. this isn't world ending, but im just personally uncomfortable changing it when there's so many wildly different opinions on what serket's timer actually should be. (thanks for providing more information, i appreciate it)

Yeah appreciate that. no worries at all. I was a bit quick to submit the ticket, from memory it was always 20 minutes back in the day but having done some research myself now it's not easy to tell. I'll do a bit more digging and if I find anything concrete will re-raise the ticket but will close with this comment. Happy for it to remain 30 mins.