Bergen Raise

[ADavidBailey]

I think I have the CC configured for Bergen Raise. I am surprised to see this. Does it qualify for Bergen Raise? I expected a 3N response.

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Here's my CC. I have highlighted the settings that I think are relevant.

System type = 0 1D opening with 4 cards = 0 1D opening with 5 cards = 0 1m opening allows 5M = 1 1M-3M blocking = 0 1M-3M inviting = 0 1X-(Y)-2Z forcing = 1 1X-(1Y)-2Z strong = 0 1X-(1Y)-2Z weak = 1 4NT opening = 1 5431 after 1NT = 0 5NT pick a slam = 1 Bergen = 1 Blackwood 0123 = 0 Blackwood 0314 = 1 Blackwood 1430 = 0 BROMAD = 1 Cappelletti = 1 Checkback = 0 Crosswood 0123 = 0 Crosswood 0314 = 0 Crosswood 1430 = 0 Cue bid = 1 DEPO = 0 DOPI = 1 Drury = 0 Exclusion = 1 Extended acceptance after NT = 0 Fit showing jumps = 0 Forcing 1NT = 1 Fourth suit = 0 Fourth suit game force = 1 French 2D = 0 Gambling = 0 Gazzilli = 0 Gerber = 1 Gerber only for 1NT and 2NT openings = 0 Ghestem = 0 Inverted minors = 1 Jacoby 2NT = 0 Jordan Truscott 2NT = 1 Kickback 0123 = 0 Kickback 0314 = 0 Kickback 1430 = 0 King ask by 5NT = 1 King ask by available bid = 0 Leaping Michaels = 1 Lebensohl after 1NT = 0 Lebensohl after 1m = 0 Lebensohl after double = 0 Maximal Doubles = 1 Michaels Cuebid = 1 Mini Splinter = 0 Minor Suit Slam Try after 2NT = 0 Minor Suit Stayman after 1NT = 0 Minor Suit Stayman after 2NT = 0 Minor Suit Transfers after 1NT = 1 Minor Suit Transfers after 2NT = 1 Mixed raise = 0 Multi = 0 Multi-Landy = 0 Namyats = 1 Natural 3N entering style = 0 New Minor Forcing = 0 Ogust = 0 Polish two suiters = 0 Puppet Stayman after 2NT = 0 Quantitative 4NT = 1 Raptor 1NT = 0 Responsive double = 1 Reverse Bergen = 0 Reverse drury = 1 ROPI = 1 Rubensohl after 1NT = 1 Rubensohl after 1m = 1 Rubensohl after double = 1 Semi forcing 1NT = 0 Shape Bergen structure = 0 SMOLEN = 1 Snapdragon Double = 0 Soloway Jump Shifts = 0 Soloway Jump Shifts Extended = 0 Splinter = 1 Splinter 1N-3D = 0 Strength Lawrence structure = 1 Super acceptance after NT = 1 Support 1NT = 1 Support double redouble = 1 Texas = 1 Two suit takeout double = 1 Two way game tries = 1 Two Way New Minor Forcing = 1 Unusual 1NT = 1 Unusual 2NT = 1 Unusual 4NT = 1 Weak Jump Shifts = 0 Weak natural 2D = 1 Weak natural 2M = 1 Wilkosz = 0 Blackwood without K and Q = 0 Trigger for double as suit = 0 Opponent type = 0

[ThorvaldAagaard]

No, But you have disabled 2N Jacoby, so 4H is probably the only way to show a opening hand with 4-card support.

[ADavidBailey]

My description says 3N = 13-15 4333.

I get the same bidding with Jacoby 2N = 1

[ADavidBailey]

I find it hard to pick a convention card for filtering scenarios. For example, I want to filter Bergen Raises. It's easy to set Bergen = 1; but, it's not easy to know which other settings might interfere, e.g. Reverse Bergen, Soloway Jump Shifts, Weak Jump Shifts, ...

How do I know which CC options take precedence? For example, Bergen vs. Fit Jumps?

And, it's impossible to know which other scenarios might be sharing that same CC. So, making a change for the current might foul up the filtering for some other. I think I'll need to create separate cc's for some scenarios -- Weak Jump Shifts, , Minor Suit Stayman, 3 Under Jump, 5431 After NT, ... I've doubled up on some; but, I think I'll do a separate one for each.

Thorvald & Edward, at Ricks's suggestion, we're putting the CC name and RegEx filter for the bba archive in the original PBS file.

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No, But you have disabled 2N Jacoby, so 4H is probably the only way to show a opening hand with 4-card support.

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[ThorvaldAagaard]

3N = 3-card support and a normally a 33(43) hand

[ADavidBailey]

Can you send me a link to the Bergen Raises that BBA uses?

[ADavidBailey]

Here's one w/4-card support and 6 HCP

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[ADavidBailey]

you have disabled 2N Jacoby, so 4H is probably the only way to show a opening hand with 4-card support.

I think this is correct. I said earlier that I'd put J2N back and it didn't change. That was wrong. My bad.

[EdwardPiwowar]

I corrected it https://sites.google.com/view/bbaenglish/description-of-conventions/bergen https://sites.google.com/view/bbaenglish/description-of-conventions/reverse-bergen

[ADavidBailey]

Thanks, Edward. I used Cohen's to create the scenario. Here's the chat... →Kibitzers: --- Bergen Raises all show exactly 4-card support. →Kibitzers: • 3♣ = Constructive (7-10) TP →Kibitzers: • 3♦ = Limit Raise (11-12) TP →Kibitzers: • 3M = Preemptive Raise (0-6) TP →Kibitzers: • 3OM = Ambiguous Splinter (12+) TP →Kibitzers: • 3N = 4333 (13-15) HCP →Kibitzers: https://www.larryco.com/bridge-articles/bergen-raises