L4PRY
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7 months ago Delaying the spawn of the constructed model is a hard-fix to jailing and exploding ships, but I have to say I'm not too fond of the idea. Understandably, as of now, constructors need to be nerfed. I believe the delay should be based on distance from the constructor, so it'll still allow for tactical placement of explosives as a counter to missiles. In unstable, the raycast parts would make this a lot easier, that's if the constructors allow it to. Missiles can be spammed via the N menu (which the last statement of the proposal touches on), defending against them can be challenging.
Additionally, the explosion prevention after spawning will also hinder its passive uses even more. I think this delay should also be based on distance, but I do like the idea of explosives having an arming time.
Now, something I'd like to add to this proposal is making constructors bigger. It's a soft counter to ranged bombs, but it'll force players to make their ships bigger, and a bigger target if they dont want to suffer the with the delays of the constructor. It also makes sense that only large ships would be able to be equipped with multiple of them.
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A design problem (e.g. clunky UX, a balancing issue, etc)
Why are you making your suggestion?
Constructor is currently able to be used for a few abusable combat strategies, such as magically teleporting destructive devices such as bombs or obscructions/anchor devices ect, long distance or inside buildings/ships (with or without the help of parts like life scanner), you could use this to make base defenses useless. All this along with its ability to stay tucked away within the safety of your ship, spawning bombs and missiles unhindered outside your ship, with no exposure to the outside world. If constructor is able to have effects like this, it should be reworked in a way to give it the same treatment you would expect around any item used for combat
What do you propose? What should change, or what should be added?
Add a delay for spawning models after the constructor has been triggered, I think something long enough to prevent you from being able to intercept a moving target in most cases, to make constructor offset abuse much less practical
Add power cost for constructing (possibly based on material cost) maybe even allow it to pull materials/energy from bins and powercells to fill whatever powercells and bins are being constructed. This would make construction much more taxing than just requiring materials from a bin, while making stuff such as drone construction much better.
Nerf constructor range (it currently allows you to magically deploy a nuke anywhere like it was a Stargate transporter)
Prevent explosives and other devices from being triggered/having effect for a short bit after spawn, possibly no-clip as well. Had the funny concern of users spawning giant walls/jails around ships
Require constructor to have a direct line of sight to the center area where it's spawning the model/require the model to fit in the space its spawning. This allow for it to be targeted in the case of missile/bomb spawning outside of the build, instead of allowing it to stay in a guarded box deploying objects to any location.
Other ideas: make constructor required for model loading (player required to be in constructor proximity with all materials available) this would limit players to have the same loading limitations as constructor without loading from it directly