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exposure to violence #45

Open diatomsRcool opened 5 years ago

diatomsRcool commented 5 years ago

One way to manage this is to say that if someone is the recipient of violence then they have been exposure to violence constructed using violent behavior in NBO. To say that someone is exposed to violence in their surroundings, we could construct a "violent environment" class in ENVO. Thoughts?

matentzn commented 5 years ago

I think NBO classes should be used only to model behavior performed by the annotated specimen, and ENVO to model external behavior received/exposed to..

diatomsRcool commented 5 years ago

OK, that makes sense. I feel like I've heard you say that before. Apologies, if I'm making you repeat.

matentzn commented 5 years ago

Nahhh :P Not at all! Just wondering wether @pbuttigieg also agrees!

cmungall commented 5 years ago

I am unsure. I don't think we want to generally shadow NBO activities in ENVO but I can see the argument for doing this in special cases.

E.g. "landscape of fear" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5600181/

Also I think a term in ENVO for something like "landscape of kindness" would be delightful

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Nahhh :P Not at all! Just wondering wether @pbuttigieg https://github.com/pbuttigieg also agrees!

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pbuttigieg commented 5 years ago

I can see this happening, and of great utility to ontologies like SDGIO.

This could work with our "hazard" semantics in SDGIO: a landscape of fear would be an environmental system within which there exist processes where system components relaise hazard dispositions with increased frequency.

That would accommodate the idea that some component (continuant) must have participated in a process involving violence.

diatomsRcool commented 5 years ago

@cmungall we could use both for STAGE, actually ;) How about a "hazardous environment" and a "pleasant environment" and then I can subclass as needed?

cmungall commented 5 years ago

I think making it a system is too strong? The boundaries of the landscape don't necessarily have any borders with common determinants. Unless we think this is a system 'determined by' a shark/wolf etc... but this gets even stranger for socioeconomic landscapes.

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I can see this happening, and of great utility to ontologies like SDGIO.

This could work with our "hazard" semantics in SDGIO: a landscape of fear would be an environmental system within which there exist processes where system components relaise hazard dispositions with increased frequency.

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cmungall commented 5 years ago

Yep - but let's not build in anthropocentrism to ENVO. These will always be relative to one organisms' or population of organisms' perspective.

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diatomsRcool commented 5 years ago

Should I go ahead and to a PR or is there a more appropriate way forward?

diatomsRcool commented 5 years ago

I think making it a system is too strong?

Is that because a system is a subclass of material entity? What about making them subclasses of environmental zone?

cmungall commented 5 years ago

yes:

def: "A site which has its extent determined by the presence or influence of one or more components of an environmental system or the processes occurring therein." []

zone seems ideal

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I think making it a system is too strong?

Is that because a system is a subclass of material entity? What about making them subclasses of environmental zone?

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