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NTR: land surface #1249

Closed dr-shorthair closed 2 years ago

dr-shorthair commented 3 years ago

"Land surface is concerned mainly with surface phenomena affecting land use and soil development that have traditionally been noted at the point of soil observation." (from https://www.publish.csiro.au/book/5230/ )

Also see http://anzsoil.org/def/au/asls/land-surface

A different specialization of http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_01000813 ?

smrgeoinfo commented 3 years ago

The problem I see is that the text from book/5230 is not really a definition of what 'land surface' is. I expect to see genera and differentia, something like Land Surface: A boundary between the solid earth (rock, sediment or soil) and the atmosphere.

Question: Is a lake bottom or sea floor a 'land surface'? Is an intertidal zone, sabkha surface, playa surface a 'land surface'? If so modify definition to 'boundary between solid earth and atmosphere or hydrosphere'. Or think about a more general term 'solid earth surface' with subclasses 'subaerial land surface' and 'subaqueous solid earth surface' or something like that.

dr-shorthair commented 3 years ago

I agree that the definition from the ASLS is poor. Thanks for the proposal.

http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_01000813 is the genera. The land-surface we are primarily interested in is (i) on earth (not some other terrestrial body) (ii) not marine.

Unclear how lakes factor in (though most of our Australian mapped lakes are dry most of the time).

dr-shorthair commented 3 years ago

@ljgregory @meganrwong @bsimons14 do you have a view here?

dr-shorthair commented 3 years ago

surface of an astronomical body is close or maybe the solution. Needs a synonym added?