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Greenhouse gas causally influences climate change - BFO role and causality #916

Open Clarissa-Feio opened 4 years ago

Clarissa-Feio commented 4 years ago

Hello,

I noticed that you have greenhouse gas as a role.

My problem is that I would like to say that greenhouse gas causally influences climate change. However, there can be no relation of causality between a role and an occurrent.

Can I ask what would be your line of thinking behind this?

Kind regards, Clarissa.

pbuttigieg commented 4 years ago

Hi @Clarissa-Feio sorry for the delay.

We import the 'greenhouse gas' role from CHEBI.

My problem is that I would like to say that greenhouse gas causally influences climate change. However, there can be no relation of causality between a role and an occurrent.

I would express that as:

( gaseous environmental material and 'has role' some greenhouse gas ) 'causal agent in process' some climate change

pbuttigieg commented 4 years ago

We could create "greenhouse gas" as a subclass of gaseous environmental material to provide a shorthand for the material entity + role composition. We generally avoid this as it could lead to very rapid term proliferation, but given the importance and ubiquity of this term, we can make an exception.

Clarissa-Feio commented 4 years ago

Dear Pier,

Thank you so much for your help.

I am so sorry to bother you with this, this is my first ontology, could you tell me how we can add the ( gaseous environmental material http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_01000797 and 'has role' some greenhouse gas http://url/ )?

I would have thought that we would need to create a new class, and say that this new class is equivalent to ( gaseous environmental material http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_01000797 and 'has role' some greenhouse gas http://url/ ), but from what you say maybe I am wrong?

Kind regards, Clarissa.

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On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 4:40 PM Pier Luigi Buttigieg < notifications@github.com> wrote:

We could create "greenhouse gas" as a subclass of gaseous environmental material to provide a shorthand for the material entity + role composition. We generally avoid this as it could lead to very rapid term proliferation, but given the importance and ubiquity of this term, we can make an exception.

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