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Joint Military Symbology Markup Language is a data encapsulation of MIL-STD-2525D and APP-6(D).
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Draw Rules for Antitank Ditch and Wall #518

Open joebayles opened 5 years ago

joebayles commented 5 years ago

From https://github.com/Esri/military-symbology/issues/273

The point ordering for these two items is reversed, in both 2525C and 2525D.

Looking at the point order, some draw left to right, and others draw right to left, if the teeth are to be oriented the same way.

Code Name Direction
25290201 Antitank Ditch-Under Construction Right to Left
25290202 Antitank Ditch-Completed Right to Left
25290203 Antitank Ditch Reinforced with Antitank Mines Left to Right
25290204 Antitank Wall Left to Right

This issue also affects Obstacle Line (25290100), which is Right to Left.

FYI @ottenw, @wmcgrane, @mepler, @twornicki

ottenw commented 5 years ago

Concur with existence of this problem; will add to draw rules scrub / update I'm working on.

ottenw commented 5 years ago

3 of 5 are drawn right to left, 2 of 5 are drawn left to right. My CP will change the 2 left to right so all 5 are drawn right to left.

ottenw commented 5 years ago

Now that I am actively working on the change proposal to fix this issue, my initial thoughts on how to fix it may not be the best solution. All of the five obstacle lines listed in this issue share the identical draw rule Line1 in MIL-STD-2525D(1). In looking at these lines in the standard, I'm thinking they should have a draw rule and templates that have as much in common with wire and fence obstacles as possible. I'll have a working draft change proposal this week for the gentlemen listed in this issue.

wmcgrane commented 5 years ago

Mr. Otten: Is this issue OBE via the SP you submitted recently on draw rule changes, or is this a separate issue?

Bill

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Now that I am actively working on the change proposal to fix this issue, my initial thoughts on how to fix it may not be the best solution. All of the five obstacle lines listed in this issue share the identical draw rule Line1 in MIL-STD-2525D(1). In looking at these lines in the standard, I'm thinking they should have a draw rule and templates that have as much in common with wire and fence obstacles as possible. I'll have a working draft change proposal this week for the gentlemen listed in this issue.

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wmcgrane commented 5 years ago

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Good Morning Bill (McG),

Happy Monday! I will have a new SP for this. It has expanded a bit in scope as I am looking at all lines within control measure symbology that include a "line decoration" and/or words to the effect of a reference to the decoration and "face towards the enemy" or "towards the obstacle". It'd on close to the top of my SCP drafting list so I would imaging I will be sending the draft to Carlos sometime this week.

Have a great day!

V/R,

Bill Otten

Senior Systems Engineer PM Mission Command, TMD SETA contractor support CACI, INC. – FEDERAL

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Mr. Otten: Is this issue OBE via the SP you submitted recently on draw rule changes, or is this a separate issue?

Bill

Bill McGrane Chair, SSMC (Mil-Std-2525 Joint Military Symbology) DISA BDE4 Standards Management Branch Comm: 301-225-7383 DSN: 312-375-7383

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Now that I am actively working on the change proposal to fix this issue, my initial thoughts on how to fix it may not be the best solution. All of the five obstacle lines listed in this issue share the identical draw rule Line1 in MIL-STD-2525D(1). In looking at these lines in the standard, I'm thinking they should have a draw rule and templates that have as much in common with wire and fence obstacles as possible. I'll have a working draft change proposal this week for the gentlemen listed in this issue.

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wmcgrane commented 5 years ago

Okay, great. Looking forward to seeing that SCP.

Bill

Bill McGrane Chair, SSMC (Mil-Std-2525 Joint Military Symbology) DISA BDE4 Standards Management Branch Comm: 301-225-7383 DSN: 312-375-7383

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Good Morning Bill (McG),

Happy Monday! I will have a new SP for this. It has expanded a bit in scope as I am looking at all lines within control measure symbology that include a "line decoration" and/or words to the effect of a reference to the decoration and "face towards the enemy" or "towards the obstacle". It'd on close to the top of my SCP drafting list so I would imaging I will be sending the draft to Carlos sometime this week.

Have a great day!

V/R,

Bill Otten

Senior Systems Engineer PM Mission Command, TMD SETA contractor support CACI, INC. – FEDERAL

PM Mission Command Field Office 4722 Rideout Road, room C22B413 Redstone Arsenal, Alabama 35805 Office: 256-842-1948 Mobile: 443-243-9777 william.r.otten.ctr@mail.mil Please consider the environment before printing this email

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Mr. Otten: Is this issue OBE via the SP you submitted recently on draw rule changes, or is this a separate issue?

Bill

Bill McGrane Chair, SSMC (Mil-Std-2525 Joint Military Symbology) DISA BDE4 Standards Management Branch Comm: 301-225-7383 DSN: 312-375-7383

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Now that I am actively working on the change proposal to fix this issue, my initial thoughts on how to fix it may not be the best solution. All of the five obstacle lines listed in this issue share the identical draw rule Line1 in MIL-STD-2525D(1). In looking at these lines in the standard, I'm thinking they should have a draw rule and templates that have as much in common with wire and fence obstacles as possible. I'll have a working draft change proposal this week for the gentlemen listed in this issue.

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