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Adding sex to the list of categories #443

Closed corinna000 closed 6 years ago

corinna000 commented 7 years ago

I added a PR for including sex in the list of categories.

https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant/pull/442

I believe the argument for including this is strong. Women are in the minority in technology, and there is an uphill battle on the inclusion of women in the field. In developing countries, women and girls are at even greater disadvantage, and it the root cause is discrimination based on sex.

The current covenant has a callout for "sexual identity", however a glance at Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_identity) makes a strong case that "sexual identity" is well established to mean conduct of sexual behavior, not actual sex.

@CoralineAda asked whether essentialist arguments about sex are relevant to including this category. It seems that regardless of arguments of sex essentialism, discrimination on the basis of sex happens anyway, and is therefore a good candidate for adding to the existing list.

mcantelon commented 7 years ago

:+1:

drmike commented 7 years ago

I know this may sound silly to some but "gender" instead of "sex" may be a more friendly term to use.

And a friendly reminder that men are a target as well, not just women. I'm a male victim of domestic violence. Spent nearly six weeks in a coma because of it.

corinna000 commented 7 years ago

Gender is not a synonym for sex. The discrimination that women face is sex-based, not gender-based, and I'm proposing the covenant should be updated to reflect that reality.

drmike commented 7 years ago

What I'm saying is that the text and wording should be neutral.

TaylanUB commented 6 years ago

I wholeheartedly support adding "sex" to the list, in my opinion preferable over "gender" because:

And without really wishing to sound too negative, I have to say that I'm deeply disappointed that this has not been one of the first categories to be added to the list.

Members of the female sex are one of the classes of people who have met the fiercest kinds of oppression for most of human history. Offences that have been and/or continue to be committed against them, usually for being female alone, include but are not limited to:

I could not take this COC seriously if it decides to keep out sex from the list of protected categories simply because it makes another group feel uncomfortable. It would mean encoding misogyny right into the COC, in particular the erasure of sex-based female oppression, which would be completely unacceptable.

TaylanUB commented 6 years ago

I thought maybe "gender (sex)" is the best way to word it. The word "gender" is perhaps more easily understood for some (some non-native speakers of English may think "sex" only refers to reproductive activity, since that definition is more popular), yet through the parantheses it's made clear that sex is meant and explicitly included.

Some die-hard proponents of the "sex does not equal gender" ideal (which I certainly sympathise with, mind you) may not like it, and should feel free to comment, but I think for the sake of being understood well, this is a good compromise. Words often have multiple meanings, after all.

Hence, an up-to-date pull request:

https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant/pull/548

CoralineAda commented 6 years ago

Gender and sex don’t mean the same thing, so I’m not comfortable with putting it in parentheses like that.

I’m still engaged in discussion of whether ‘sex’ distinct from ‘gender’ is necessary and thinking pretty hard about it. My first instinct is that it’s cis-centric. Let’s hold off on a PR until I have a chance to get more input from the community.

corinna000 commented 6 years ago

I am trans, not cis, and am the originator of this change. Regardless of my being trans, I still would choose to have my sex protected as a separate characteristic, and believe that it’s especially important to acknowledge the various forms of discrimination that predominantly affect those whose sex is female. There is nothing “cis-centric” in acknowledging sex-based oppression. Trans-men are susceptible to sex-based oppression regardless of their personal identity.

nedbat commented 6 years ago

@CoralineAda I am a newcomer to these discussions, and so am probably missing many of the nuances of meaning here. It seems to me that the goal of this list of categories is to ensure that everyone is included. If someone comes here to say that they don't feel included until a category is added, isn't that a strong argument for adding it?

I would think that for any given category, there are people for whom it doesn't apply, or could even be counter to their inclusion. Perhaps I am too inexperienced in the forces at work here.

kruug commented 6 years ago

@nedbat since diversity is superior to merit (per CoralineAda’s other repo), you don’t have to worry about being inexperienced.