Glancing blows not working correctly

[Trolltilla]

At current Glancing blows occur at about 20% of the time versus mobs that are above your level. These attacks only do 75% of their normal damage versus a mob that is 3 levels above you. Bosses are counted as "your level+3".

http://www.wowwiki.com/Glancing_blow

Chrono lord result in Heroic Black Morass

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/chronod.jpg/

Temporus result

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/temporus.jpg/

Aeonus result

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/aeonq.jpg/

You can see from every picture that my min hit is around 200ish from offhand but minimum glancing hit is around 40 so glancings reduce damage about 75% instead of the 25% they should on bosses. This is a huge nerf on enhancement dps and should be fixed.

Also checked a less geared fury warriors glancings and the minimum there was around 200 so i don't know if that's only a shaman issue or if it happens on rogues too.

Just the hits from glancings are incredibly low at least for an enh sham.

Got a rogue meters from Aeonus

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/roguezb.jpg/

Proc rate seems to be about the same as enh sham but damage is much higher. Also min / max damages from glances are abit more than 75% of the normal damage done but average damage is about 75% dmg so that seems to be quite okay

Warrior dps from Aenous

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/warriorai.jpg/

If you look at the ratio glancing proc rate was 31% which is alot higher than enh sham and rogues 16%-26% but the damage from the glancings are bigger aswell (90% normal damage)

So glancings are definately not working correctly.

[crotchrot]

Need a bigger test pool, 60 attacks isn't conclusive. Definitely looks as though it deviates though.

Also, from your link:

"The new formula seems to be: glancing blow chance = 10 + mob defense - player weapon skill

For a level 73 mob, that's a 25% chance of glancing blow."

Wars/rogues may have racials/talents/items that increase +wpn skill, hence diff proc rates for glancing blows.

[Trolltilla]

Wpn skill was converted to expertise in 2.3.0. There's nothing that gives weapon skill anymore so that has no effect in glancings. So that pattern = 10 + 365 (mob defense skill) - 350 (player weapon skill) = 25% Glancing chance.

Also with any valid logic if my minimum offhand hit is around 200 i should never hit 39 as glancings. Min glancing should be around 150 so it's definately not working correctly even with several small test pools.

[Sideways]

Needs confirmation, proof and description/reproduction guide.

[Trolltilla]

I don't know the gm commands but a best way to test each one of these separately is to create a boss mob that doesn't hit you. 6.5% dodge from behind and infinite hp = you can run longer tests to get accurate results

[Trolltilla]

Tested on other heroic bosses aswell. My glancings as enhancement shaman are still way too low compared to what they should be. If you take a look at the temporus report my average melee hits are 388. average glancings however 116 so that would be 116/388 = 0,2989 = my average glancing hits are about 30% of my white hits while they should really be 75% (388 x 0.75 = 291) so in reality they should be closer to 291 instead of the 116.

I had 7 glancings averaging 116 so that's 7x 116 = 812 while in reality they should be 291 x 7 = 2073 if you count that to total damage (2073 - 812 ) / 35625 = 0,0353 so with 18.9% glancing proc rate my damage would increase 3.5% with proper values. and this is just from a fast parse of a boss. In longer boss fights glancing amount is around 25% so that would become closer to 5% of total damage lost due to glancings hitting too low.

[Fudin]

hi there m8s, i am an enh shaman too and i have spotted the same prob i can also give some links from recount meters if needed. that rly needs a fix guys since the dps drops way to low cause of that reason :(

[wucdbm]

@crotchrot "Wars/rogues may have racials/talents/items that increase +wpn skill, hence diff proc rates for glancing blows." its expertice, so -%dodge/parry, not reducing the effect of glancing

[Trolltilla]

Seems to be only enhancement problem.

Create a shaman Equip it with 2x 1h weapons Spawn a boss Hit the boss Compare average damage to glancing damage

[Wordah]

This is broken badly... I'm currently hitting low as 4, with my off-hand glancing blows on Kara/Gruul bosses. And i'm pretty well geared enha shammy

[bmxler]

Did some Screens in kara yesterday:

Aran: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/441/glacingblowaran.jpg/

Prinz: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/glancingblowprinz.jpg/

[enigmazxx]

wow didint know it was that bad :o

[zeroxas]

Fixed. working localy soon on PTR

[Devilish]

Tested on ptr :

301 auto swings on prince malchaezar

Hit: Min 139 avg 234 max 564 %33.2 Glancing: Min 100 avg 193 max 361 % 24.3

[ghost]

The same problem has the druid, his glancing blows do too little damage. ca.1000 auto hits in Kara Hit: Avg 255 Glancing: Avg 65

65/255 = 25,49%

it should be 75%

[Databasegm]

Open a new issue if there are problems with druid glancing blows.

[Doppelmoral]

This (shaman) glancing bug is still existent. I recall it was supposed to be fixed with Patch # 5, but there has been a crash issue with the patch so you revoked it and decided to apply it step by step to Archangel. However, this one has not been re-applied so I want to ask if it is still on the developers to-do-list ? Does it need any further proof or informations, Database ? Enhancement Shamans in T5raids even glance for 2 damage points ( http://s1.directupload.net/images/121130/t9ak78n5.jpg ) while having T4/T5 gear and most imaginable raidsupport/buffs. Average hit 365, average glance 84.

[Anelith]

https://github.com/FeenixServerProject/Archangel_2.4.3_Bugtracker/issues/2095 [Druid]Glancing Damage should work the same.

[Databasegm]

Closing, applied in Patch 7.